GOT STRANDED ON THE K-9...!@!@#$%^

[coachk]

Cruising to Thunder on the Bay yesterday with a bunch of guys and the 2006 K-9 decides to take a shit..:down:

Cruising for about 2 hours and I smell something burning. Then the bike just shuts off...no nothing. Pull off to the side and pop the seat off and a trickle of smoke comes from the battery area.

I have never had one issue with the K-9 until this....trailered the bike back home.

What causes it to just shut off while cruising. I'm guessing the EHC got fried. Need the expert help of you guys....I'm not an electrical guy, so keep it simple for me.......In the picture, can some one describe the components for me.


THANKS



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[coachk]

And yes, I know that's a piece of tape with K-9 on it......

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[coachk]

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[Trainguy]

What if anything will the bike do now? Crank but won't start, no crank completely dead, etc.

 

[coachk]

What if anything will the bike do now? Crank but won't start, no crank completely dead, etc.

Bike does absolutely nothing....same as yesterday when it died. Turn the key on and nothing,nada, zip,zero.

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[Srodden]

The ehc is the orange box on bottom with red lights n it your second pic is the ignition module. If smoke came from this area probably one of these are these issue. The key switch is another spot to check. Sometimes shorts can be the root cause. First things first make sure battery is charged and good

 

[KaptinAmerika]

Burning electrical is excess voltage and amperage generally
The system with the greatest capacity for that is the charging system.
Check your battery
If it has low voltage then I would go to the charging system first.
Check your 40 amp breaker
Check the VR and the stator
Easy to do with a meter and only takes a few minutes.

 

[coachk]

Burning electrical is excess voltage and amperage generally
The system with the greatest capacity for that is the charging system.
Check your battery
If it has low voltage then I would go to the charging system first.
Check your 40 amp breaker
Check the VR and the stator
Easy to do with a meter and only takes a few minutes.

The battery showed 5 volts and here is a picture of it...notice on the side it looks burned. Is that possible. The burned side is the positive terminal end.



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[Viking]

The symptoms does not suggest battery but with the battery looking like that I would just replace it and see what happens. Tighten up all you connections is another good idea….

Hope you get to the bottom of it and post the cause.

 

[Bowhunter]

Be sure to check the bottom of your seat, the battery posts have been known to rub through the carpet and short out the battery against the metal seat pan. If you have rub marks on the bottom of your seat, you will have the same problem again when you put your weight on the seat and 'short out' the battery.

 

[KaptinAmerika]

Yep that's the positive side
Start checking the fuse and charging system

 

[Little-Boo]

Be sure to check the bottom of your seat, the battery posts have been known to rub through the carpet and short out the battery against the metal seat pan. If you have rub marks on the bottom of your seat, you will have the same problem again when you put your weight on the seat and 'short out' the battery.

:2thumbs:

That is a good one that was discussed several years ago, it happened to me. What I did was remove the felt/carpet on the back side of the seat. I went out and got me some thin (1/8th) rubber mets that are self adhesive and put that on the seat metal pan. Next I got some 3-M spray all purpose glue and put the seat back together. You don't to take the whole seat apart just the back part and about 1/2 way up. So far so good no more shorted out battery problems.

Carlos :2thumbs:

 

[KaptinAmerika]

How did I end up with a fiberglass pan and everyone else has metal

 

[Bowhunter]

I guess you were just lucky Curtis, I have also covered my battery with a thin rubber mat to prevent shorting out of my battery like Carlos.

 

[Viking]

How did I end up with a fiberglass pan and everyone else has metal

Hmmmm, my stock single has metal too...

 

[coachk]

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What is the silver thing with the red dot, in the photo.

And my battery read 10.4v not 5v. The guy at advanced auto checked it and he said it was 5v... must of thought he could sell me a battery if the reading was low.:down:


The bottom of the seat pan/felt is not the issue with my battery. Seat pan/felt looked perfect.

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[Gas Man]

The box with the red dot is your stock ignition.

do what Kapt said, get the battery up to power. Needs to be 12+.

Before you hook up the battery. Pull the EHC connections, the big old 1980's PC plugs, and pack them full of dielectric grease. Plug it all back in.

Try again.

Got to get the battery set well, before you worry about the EHC. One step at a time.

 

[coachk]

The box with the red dot is your stock ignition.

do what Kapt said, get the battery up to power. Needs to be 12+.

Before you hook up the battery. Pull the EHC connections, the big old 1980's PC plugs, and pack them full of dielectric grease. Plug it all back in.

Try again.

Got to get the battery set well, before you worry about the EHC. One step at a time.

Thanks...charging the battery now.

 

[liferider]

DO NOT TRY TO JUMP OFF THE K9 Like you would a car. You can FRY the EHC!!!!!!

 

[bearman]

If everything works like its supposed to, then when your voltage regulator goes bad, your fuse blows (or your circuit breaker pops out) and your dog runs on battery till it runs down. When the voltage gets too low it will shut off and not do anything.

Any problem with the charging system will result in the same thing. So charge the battery to more than 12 volts, then see if it comes back to life, if it does and will crank then check that it is charging correctly (and not overcharging) before anything else.

If it doesn’t come back to life, try jumping out the contacts on the key switch. Key switch failure is a known issue.