Gas tank issues:

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SB03chopper

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The shop here in St. louis, did it the same way. They told me that and they can not guarantee they paint would not be damaged by the heat. They showed me a HD tank that had body filler on it, and it popped off. Mine came out fine, also my liner was also green. So I look at it this way, good for another 14 years.
 

BWG56

Guru
Please define "rattling" ... I´ve got a very obnoxios PITA rattling LOUD noise in my tank which I´ve always believed comes from that useless tube inside it... now you got me thinking...
I think your prolly right about the tube, if chunks of liner are in there floating around they wouldn't be making any noise, they are more like wet boogies floating around in there.
 
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Lone Rider

Member
Please define "rattling" ... I´ve got a very obnoxios PITA rattling LOUD noise in my tank which I´ve always believed comes from that useless tube inside it... now you got me thinking...
Oh, the rattling I heard became obvious only AFTER I had drained the tank of gas, removed the pitcock, etc....refilled with water, drained it all out, and let it dry for a couple of hours outside; after that, I picked up the tank and found out the several pieces of the liner had come loose inside and were, "rattling" around because I shook the tank. I had no sounds coming from the tank prior to all that. I would imagine your hearing something loose inside that could be the vent tube thingy. You may have to do the same as I did, pull the tank, empty it, flush it out with water, let dry, then pick it up and do the mumbo a few times to hear it......or......"Don't look now, but I think your pitcock is broken" she said with a smile and a wink of her good eye.
 

Lone Rider

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The shop here in St. louis, did it the same way. They told me that and they can not guarantee they paint would not be damaged by the heat. They showed me a HD tank that had body filler on it, and it popped off. Mine came out fine, also my liner was also green. So I look at it this way, good for another 14 years.
I was wondering what the name of the shop is in St Louis you sent your gas tank too, as I have found out The shop here in Tulsa Would not be able to Adequately do the job correctly. Thank you
 

SB03chopper

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Let me check on Monday, and I'll get back with you. I know they do not guarantee the paint from getting damaged by the heat inside tank, but mine came back with no damage.
 

Lone Rider

Member
Here are some ideas that I've gleaned from others who have had tank liner removal issues.
1. Acetone. 2. Por-15 3. KS-3 Premium (a type of paint stripper) 4. Muriatic Acid.
Has anyone here used any of these with any success? Thank you for your help.
 

SB03chopper

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Okay Lone Rider here is his card, and he said it would be $175-$200, and you can ship it to them. I would call them 1st, and talk it over, they will reline the tank too. There is no guarantee, on the paint, but he said he has only had one bad, because of the filler on it. Mine came out just fine, and was very pleased with the out come. You may want to replace your tank saver, if it is an old one, and get a new ratchet gas cap. Otherwise somewhere down the road you are going to have to replace it anyway they all go bad, which means it will be hard to get that cap off. My # 314 452-5565, if I can help in anyway. Steve
 

Lone Rider

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Okay Lone Rider here is his card, and he said it would be $175-$200, and you can ship it to them. I would call them 1st, and talk it over, they will reline the tank too. There is no guarantee, on the paint, but he said he has only had one bad, because of the filler on it. Mine came out just fine, and was very pleased with the out come. You may want to replace your tank saver, if it is an old one, and get a new ratchet gas cap. Otherwise somewhere down the road you are going to have to replace it anyway they all go bad, which means it will be hard to get that cap off. My # 314 452-5565, if I can help in anyway. Steve
Thank you Steve, I will give them a call and see what develops.
 

Lone Rider

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Hey all: I have had the issue with regards to the bike starting/running fine for a bit, then suddenly dying and being difficult to start/run, etc. Turns out the liner in my gas tank was deteriorating and coming loose from the inside walls of the tank, and each layer would wrap itself around the pit cock tube and shut off the flow of gas to the carb. Soooooooooo, Here is what I did and you can too:
1. I had to remove my tank, drain it, rinse it out with water, let it dry. 2. Remove the fuel valve entirely, and the top seal from the gas hole opening,(including the gas cap of course).
3. Plugged off the fuel bung with anything that wont leak; I used a steel bolt and duct tape - The inside walls of the fuel bung is not threaded, so a bolt wont just screw itself up inside, hence, the duct tape.
4. Buy a gallon of Muratic acid, and using a long funnel, pour the whole gallon into the tank and in stages, let it sit inside the tank for a day or more; you may have to check it's status every three or four hours to turn the tank on the left side, right side, front end, etc / But be very careful to not let any acid spill out of the top of the tank! There is a 1 1/5 " inner lip to the top of the gas tank top so, by tipping the tank over on its topside down, and supporting it to hold that position for a duration of time, you can gauge how much of a tilt to go with before any liquid reaches that edge. After each turning of the tank has sat for 3-4hrs, filp it upright again and remove the bottom plug.
5. Once the tank is empty of Muratic acid, take it down to your local car wash and flush the loosened liner out with a hot, high pressure washing, the liner will be soft and similar to strips of wet noodles and should come out the bottom bung hole easily. I had to turn my tank bottom side up, and place the wand tip into the opening to get at the top innerside of the tank. Rinse and repeat as often as necessary to get as much of the liner out. Finish with plain, hot water to Rinse. Let dry in the sun.
6. When your sure the tank has no more liner, take it home, and let it dry out; I used a hair dryer down through the top to make sure the inside was bone dry. If there is any lapse of time, surface rust can begin to cover the inside of the tank; this is because regular tap water has minerals in it that can promote rusting, if that happens, you can rinse it out with Apple Cider Vinegar. Pour a gallon into the tank, swish it around, let is sit for about an hour, more or less, swish it around again, just make sure like before with the Muratic Acid, that you cover the entire inner walls of the tank; let it sit for about an hour each rotation, then pour it out the bottom.
7. Since Apple Cider Vinegar is acidic.....you will need to Rinse out the tank again with a gallon of Distilled water (NOT tap water!) and baking soda to remove and neutralize the inner walls of the tank. Use a hair dryer again to dry it out as quickly as possible.
8. After all this, your tank should be completely clean of any traces of liner, rust, and acidic residue.
9. As soon as possible, Put the fuel valve back onto the tank, pour one gallon of gasoline into the tank, swish it around inside the tank to cover all the inner walls; ( 5min) this is just to reaquaint your tank with a petroleum based liquid again.
10. Put the tank back on the bike, make sure all connections are secure, and no leaks. Start the bike and let it idle to warm up, again, check for any leaks, if no leaks, then fill the tank and go for a ride!

I cannot assume any responsibility for the out come of your experience; this is what I learned by watching a few Youtube videos and following the instructions carefully. Read all labels concerning Muratic acid and how to handle it. If your not sure of a step, review it and make very sure you understand before you try it. Remember, this is YOUR bike, so take care to not mess it up!
This is just a home remedy that works well, but is a bit time consuming, but it's worth the wait if you do it carefully.
Otherwise, you can send your tank out to this place:

West end Auto and Radiator Repair 1-636-527-6603 Ask for Mike or Garry.
 

SB03chopper

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So I take it you did not send it to them, but it sounds like they may have told you how they do it. The reason I say that it takes them about a week before you get it back. They also put a coat of something inside the tank, so it is relined again, but I do not know what it is.
 

Lone Rider

Member
So I take it you did not send it to them, but it sounds like they may have told you how they do it. The reason I say that it takes them about a week before you get it back. They also put a coat of something inside the tank, so it is relined again, but I do not know what it is.
Steve: No, I have not yet sent my tank to them, yet. I wanted to try and do this myself and see how it plays out; The irony is that I thought that by doing it myself, I would save some time and money. Actually, it has taken me nearly three weeks to get to this point. Mainly because I have been working so much OT at my job, I just haven't had any time off to work on it. I assumed I would have this done in a few hours, per one day off. Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........how dumb is that? I should've just sent them the tank and have it all done and I'd be riding now instead of waiting for this thursday to come around so I can have a day off and time to finish what I've started. If this fix doesn't work the way I believe it will....ergo....off to Mo. it goes.
All I have left to do is the last two steps, 9 and 10, so.....Here's hoping to the best results.
 

Lone Rider

Member
Well, hello again fellow Big Dog riders. I've been a busy worker bee......since the last time I was on here. Update: I had an issue with my gas tank inner liner coming apart; finally got that fixed and relined, but the paint was messed up and so, I couldn't afford the cost of repainting the tank for a very long while. However, through the wonderful bartering system, a good friend of mine agreed to repaint my tank for a couple of new helmets he needed for himself and girlfriend. How cool is that? Also......he agreed to repaint both fenders for my K9 for a trade of some "green tea" and $125.00. How much more cool is that? So....in another week or so, I will have my K9 Custom all put back together and ready to Ride! I will post some pics on the outcome when I can. Stay tuned.
 

Ernie12

Active Member
That is awesome, glad it worked out for you. I did something similar to what you did but I stopped after two days of cleaning it out for fear of messing up the paint. So I sent my tank to GTL out in North Hollywood CA. It was very expensive to ship it back and forth and for them to do the work but in the end I have no paint damage and a guarantee on my tank lining. They had it for about 3wks but it was well worth it to me.
 

what?

Active Member
Holy shit! I have never checked mine!
i think i'm do for this. probably do it over the winter. check the jumper line that connects the right side to the left side of the tank if you have that set up. I'm sure crap gets trapped in there as well.
 

Lone Rider

Member
I haven't yet put my tank on; I have a small issue with the bung threads being a bit worn down. The ring collar that normally would be able to screw onto it, cant get enough "connection" with those worn threads, (which are left hand threads)....so.......I've been thinking about using a small amount of thread sealant, which needs to be nearly permanent. Can anyone recommend such a sealant?
The inner threads on the ring collar are fine, and the pitcock can easily fit up through it just fine.
Any ideas would be much apprecated....
 
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