... in daytone have a bigdog tec from the factory work on my bike for 2 days he changed everything u could think of to find out it was a bad injector,got home turned the key on and the bike trys to start on its own and doent stop.i hate this bike,im just about done with it!!!
Wait a minute. You have the factory tech change everything possible, you now turn the key on only, not push any buttons, the bike keeps the starter motor engaged till you turn the key off?
No offense to you carb guys/gals, but if you rode to some mountain resort with a carb, the air would go thin. The gas would still pump in the same amount of gas, but less air to send one molecule bouncing off another kind of poor [rich] running.
With the EFI, it knows air density. It knows it is running rich if the 02 is in play or [in closed loop], meaning. Even in open loop, it still knows to lean out, via sensor inputs. You pull up a map to lean out. You can't pull up a jet and lean out. Well, if you had the parts and tools, yes you could.
So that says, you park off to the side of the road twice to change jetting. You carb guys look 'the fool(s) on the hill,' no? If there is a ground problem, you've got a problem. If the units are so bad, then the initial concept does not work?
Then, it is not the software. It is not the hardware. It is usually something outside the box? If the box is grounded, the concept works. FI has to follow X and Y no matter the engine configuration. In other words, an 02 in a car, follows the same software as a bike. That is the software concept.
There is no set 'learn' where it is just a box full of maps to pull up, following your rpm moves? I think that 'learn' is a constant. Yes, I know the cars can learn your throttle routine and now the wife uses the car? Does it lean all over again her throttle input? The car bucks and spits because her X to Y is not your X to Y?
Lean? I think that was some old way of introducing FI to the clueless? Every 360° never is exactly the same, yes or no? Every traffic jam is never the same rpm. Some are dead in the water. Some creep along. The ECU learns or is on top of it every degree?
Okay, it was a faulty injector. It was not the box. WATT does that tell you? I am arguing in favor of FI. :up:
So, here are my carb buddies off to the side of the road, dropping float bowls for the second time, we are heading downhill. I'm waiting for them like a bear chits in the woods, I make the forest my toilet bowl.