DOG WONT START??

STROKER

MEMBER
hi guys...the last time i rode was mid december,seemed to run fine. last weekend barely got around the block. lots of coughing and backfiring. got home and drained the gas tanks,and carb bowl. checked for spark,seemed really weak, so put on a newCRANE CAMS coil and new plug and plug wires. still all it wants to do ispop and back fire out the exhaust. doesnt sound like its even trying to run. bike is 2000 PRO-SPORT with 107 ci, and CRANE HI-4 ignition. any and all help is greatly appreciated!!:bang::bang:
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
Staff member
check all connections for corrosion AND check for ohms on the battery cables. sometimes you get major corrosion inside the insulation that you don't see that will reduce the current to less than adequate. cure would be to replace cables.
hope this helps.
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
...the last time i rode was mid december,seemed to run fine. last weekend barely got around the block. lots of coughing and backfiring.
There are 3 basic variables you want to eliminate, and 2 will always show a presence while the other is a no-show:

1. Compression = One must not chase their tail, so the very first thing is to check compression. Well, say the bike starts right up. We can assume quickly what might not be a cause of starting. So this would be first to be eliminated is it starts, right?

2. Spark = The thing about spark is that a roaring flame and a weak flame can still cause the forest to take off and burn the trees down, right? So changing from a torch to a match is still spark, you changed the ignition and it is still the same. Do we understand we now eliminated 2 variables?

3. Fuel = Here is where you have to think, "I put the bike away and it had spark/fuel/compression when I rode it last." Gas turns to varnish when sitting for a long time. Gas can start the process by shrinking the jetting as it hugs inside the jet hole, wraps a layer around that diameter and narrows the hole.

You get this popping sound, a poor driveability situation when all 3-variables are working. You have spark/compression/but fuel is now in question. Do we understand the spark did not help? Compression is a given? Fuel is, "I left the gas in the carb so it goes bad, and I'm a bad boy for not draining the gas out of the carb to begin with, but now I'm swapping out pistons and ignition systems, what's my problem?

Did we somewhat narrow it down some?
 

STROKER

MEMBER
battery is fine, cranks over really well. it just pops and backfires out the exhaust. going to do a static time in the AM. will let you know what we find out. thanks again for all your help!!:cheers:
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
Have you been running ethanol gas? This could lead to gumming up the carb and doing exactly what you are talking about. I run 100 octaine av gas leaded in my bike when ever I can. Usually go down to the local small airport and fuel up 5 -5gal race fuel cans and put stable in it. I also run my lawn mower on this stuff! My Ultra classic with the stage 3 work running 11-1 compression LOVES this fuel. I honestly bring 7- 5 gal cans to Sturgis with me. When I get fuel on the road I put a packet of Rocket fuel octaine booster and 10 oz of ethanol dump in my tank then pump super unleaded in the tank to mix everything up. J&P cycles sells both rocket fuel packs for 5 gal tanks and Star octaine dump.
 

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STROKER

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been running about 80% avgas/20% 89-91 octane mixture. tank only had 2-3 gals in it.drained it and the carb bowl to no avail. thanks fer the input also..
 

STROKER

MEMBER
:eek::eek:OK...HERES THE LATEST... stupid me got the spark plug wires backward. took a picture of the 3 wires of the coil before hand, had those right,but apparently had the plug wires wrong....anyways it runs like a top now. i want to thank everyone for their help on this issue...THIS FORUM TOTALLY ROCKS !!! :2thumbs::2thumbs: :cheers:
 

STROKER

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LIFERIDER...if you're using AVGAS you really dont need the STA-BIL, AVGAS has almost unlimited shelf life. ive been running it for several years. riding mower,weed whacker etc. i do know you dont want to use it in these new vehicles, it will screw up a catalytic converter in no time. anyway thanks again for your help!:2thumbs:
 

coach

Active Member
:eek::eek:OK...HERES THE LATEST... stupid me got the spark plug wires backward. took a picture of the 3 wires of the coil before hand, had those right,but apparently had the plug wires wrong....anyways it runs like a top now. i want to thank everyone for their help on this issue...THIS FORUM TOTALLY ROCKS !!! :2thumbs::2thumbs: :cheers:
I hate when that happens....the obvious or the obscure? :rolleyes:
 
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