dodgy connection??
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lee
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thanks gents
I double checked the connector in the hand control and it looks good - if the problem is in the hand control its nothing I can see for myself.
I'm thinking possible loose connection in the EHC and will look at this today.
I spoke to Andy (bike tech I use) and he said the same thing Chacha about the terminal getting hot with excessive cranking so thats put my mind at rest on that one, although I will still check the usual things there.
I double checked the connector in the hand control and it looks good - if the problem is in the hand control its nothing I can see for myself.
I'm thinking possible loose connection in the EHC and will look at this today.
I spoke to Andy (bike tech I use) and he said the same thing Chacha about the terminal getting hot with excessive cranking so thats put my mind at rest on that one, although I will still check the usual things there.
I guess when I said no hott wires I was referring to normal starts. I'm sorry for the confusion and won't restate what was already said about excessive cranking.
However, I will say, if you are going to excessively crank, then yes stop after 60 seconds for sure, but if you don't, use some ky or lotion as you might get a very red knob... OH SHIT... WAIT... what are we talking about again??? :lol:
However, I will say, if you are going to excessively crank, then yes stop after 60 seconds for sure, but if you don't, use some ky or lotion as you might get a very red knob... OH SHIT... WAIT... what are we talking about again??? :lol:
lee
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well boys its got me beat. Fucker won't even start now (maybe flooded) and it is being picked up Monday - pissed right off.
I took a look at the EHC and 2 of the four screws are sheered off that piece of shit no good thing but the connections seem to be in pretty good. And I'm not getting any fault lights except for the ignition - and that is supposed to be on.
Hopefully when Andy picks it up he will be able to sort because I certainly can't. At least I don't have to take it to a BDM dealer to fuck it up some more.
Once its done I'll let you know what the problem was. As I've said before I don't understand electrics at all so if it is an electrical problem I may not understand anyway!
Did I mention I was pissed right off?
I took a look at the EHC and 2 of the four screws are sheered off that piece of shit no good thing but the connections seem to be in pretty good. And I'm not getting any fault lights except for the ignition - and that is supposed to be on.
Hopefully when Andy picks it up he will be able to sort because I certainly can't. At least I don't have to take it to a BDM dealer to fuck it up some more.
Once its done I'll let you know what the problem was. As I've said before I don't understand electrics at all so if it is an electrical problem I may not understand anyway!
Did I mention I was pissed right off?
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
Lee,
If you have broke two of the four screws on the EHC (not hard to do and it is even mentioned in my BDM SM to be careful), there is a good chance that you are not getting a solid connection through the EHC.
I would very careful remove the 50 pin connectors from the EHC and look at all the pins on the EHC. Check to make sure that oen is not bent or worse broken. Check and re-check. The look at the female matching holes in the 50 pin connectors to make sure nothing wrong there.
If everything is good, you can replace the screws that hold the connectors to the EHC. The black plastic covers come off the connectors allowing one to get to where they can replace the screws. You will also want to make sure that what is left of the screw in the EHC are removed. May have to get some precission pliers, tweezers, etc to remove. May even be better to pull the EHC out so that it can be worked on the bench.
Now finding the proper screws to replace to hold down the connectors to EHC could be fun. You can try an electronic shop or even see if you can salvage some from a computer cable such as printer. If you can find some that fit, but that are too long, make a little spacer to place between the screw head and the connector shoulder.
I tell you this from experience by the way!
Good luck
If you have broke two of the four screws on the EHC (not hard to do and it is even mentioned in my BDM SM to be careful), there is a good chance that you are not getting a solid connection through the EHC.
I would very careful remove the 50 pin connectors from the EHC and look at all the pins on the EHC. Check to make sure that oen is not bent or worse broken. Check and re-check. The look at the female matching holes in the 50 pin connectors to make sure nothing wrong there.
If everything is good, you can replace the screws that hold the connectors to the EHC. The black plastic covers come off the connectors allowing one to get to where they can replace the screws. You will also want to make sure that what is left of the screw in the EHC are removed. May have to get some precission pliers, tweezers, etc to remove. May even be better to pull the EHC out so that it can be worked on the bench.
Now finding the proper screws to replace to hold down the connectors to EHC could be fun. You can try an electronic shop or even see if you can salvage some from a computer cable such as printer. If you can find some that fit, but that are too long, make a little spacer to place between the screw head and the connector shoulder.
I tell you this from experience by the way!
Good luck
if (2) out of (4) screws are broken, could it not be something as simple as a bad ground???????? or is the ground supplied from the battery?
lee
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thanks gents
no need Gas I got that but thanks anyway
I did look and the pins looked ok - one of the screws was already broken but I did the other one today. Getting them out will be fun as they sheered off flush.
It couldn't be something as simple as spark plugs could it? I took them out and they are badly fouled - got some new ones but haven't tried it yet. My thinking though is it could only be the plugs if the coil provides stronger spark to start the bike than it does once it is running - if it does that is news to me.
no need Gas I got that but thanks anyway
I did look and the pins looked ok - one of the screws was already broken but I did the other one today. Getting them out will be fun as they sheered off flush.
It couldn't be something as simple as spark plugs could it? I took them out and they are badly fouled - got some new ones but haven't tried it yet. My thinking though is it could only be the plugs if the coil provides stronger spark to start the bike than it does once it is running - if it does that is news to me.
doesn't sound logical, lee, but at this point, ??????????????????
lee
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well the new plugs didn't do anything. I've also had the tank off and check the connectors and from what I could tell all looked OK.
Going to leave it overnight to let the battery recover. If it doesn't work with a rested and recharged battery in the morning then I can't fix it.
Going to leave it overnight to let the battery recover. If it doesn't work with a rested and recharged battery in the morning then I can't fix it.
You have to get a proper connection at the EHC first. You need all four screws to seat the terminals. Both of the terminal orfices need to be full of dielectric grease as well. When you go to install the connectors this time make sure the connector is square and the terminals are started by hand. Then cinch down each side a little at a time until snug. I bet it fixes it.
lee
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I tried that too - trouble is it draws them closer together at the top which means they are not in straight. I find it difficult to put one round each because of the wiring coming out of one end getting in the way. I actually broke one of the little brass things the screws screw into today too just for good measure so its pretty fucked up. I also can't believe the EHC isn't bolted down at all. Piece of shit if you ask me.
I tried it again today and it fired up and stayed on OK. I switched it off again and the same - started up no problem at all but once I released the start button it died. Must be a loose connection somewhere.
I tried it again today and it fired up and stayed on OK. I switched it off again and the same - started up no problem at all but once I released the start button it died. Must be a loose connection somewhere.
Lee, the EHC is suppose to be bolted down....
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