KaptinAmerika
Guru
In 2 years when yours has not failed and there is at least 20,000 miles on it I will step back and applaude.
But at the same time in two years if you have had to buy another one because the first one failed welll........
Doc esc vs EHC RIP
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But at the same time in two years if you have had to buy another one because the first one failed welll........
BWG56
Guru
When I posted that they where the same, (MY BAD) it wasn't until a day or 2 later that I found the picture of the RIP II. and if you look back on the post's, I had mentioned that maybe you would weigh in on this, Jwooky made it sound like you just plug into the 2 EHC connectors and your done, its not. Plug n Play in my mind would be to disconnect the 2 connectors on the EHC and plug 2 connectors back into a new module and your done. But if its the way you have stated: "Okay so you have to unplug a couple more connectors than just two but it doesn't make it not Plug N Play." then by those rules, the ESC would also be Plug n Play. And yes you don't have to replace the backbone harness, but for the same price its a bonus to get that harness.
I have no financial or any other benefit to the ESC or any other vendor on here, I'm just letting other bikers know there are other options out there.
As far as a scare tactic on the headlight, there have been many members over the years that have melted their headlight plug and yes by upgrading to a cooler LED is the way to go, I've received a LED bulb from you almost 2 years ago, the pictures on your website of the difference in the headlight bulbs is in fact of my 3 car garage because I posted those pictures, great bulb.
I understand you don't manufacture the RIP II, but there are still issues with it, like the guy that posted above about his high and low beam not working for 5 weeks and his mechanic could not get any help. I don't know the specifics other than what he posted, so is there still a quality issue? Terminals properly terminated do not fall off, I designed Crimp tooling for Hand Tools, Mini Applicators and high speed Lead making machinery for 42 yrs.
I'm sure this is not Axel's first rodeo with these type of boxes, but in the short amount of time that he's been working on it, he has come a long way and like you, I wish him luck and success with this because if he would have had this unit a year ago I would be running one of them in my bike. Recently when you checked out my EHC you told me they are prone to fail the cold start test, maybe his don't have that component in them. And when someone hooks a battery up wrong, well what can ya say, shit is going to happen.
"If you have a true bitch or complaint because you were screwed over and you were denied the help you needed thats one thing but to slip and slide around here like so many have been doing to try and trash others is bullshit, cowardly and assinine."
I have no clue what that comment above would pertain to?
However, If I have trashed or gave anyone the impression that I'm better than them, I will be the first to appologize, all my intention was to inform other members that there are other options and will continue to do so.
This is not a rant and I am no way upset, I have purchased many things from you in the past and will continue to purchase things in the future.
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BWG56
Guru
WOW, I didn't even see this when I posted above and I'm not even going to address your questions, they are outta line
KaptinAmerika
Guru
Okay, fine. The kickback and podium statements were meant to be a joking stab at you but clearly your thin skinned about it so if it takes me apologizing for that so be it "I'm sorry". But I won't apologize for anything else.When I posted that they where the same, (MY BAD) it wasn't until a day or 2 later that I found the picture of the RIP II. and if you look back on the post's, I had mentioned that maybe you would weigh in on this, Jwooky made it sound like you just plug into the 2 EHC connectors and your done, its not. Plug n Play in my mind would be to disconnect the 2 connectors on the EHC and plug 2 connectors back into a new module and your done. But if its the way you have stated: "Okay so you have to unplug a couple more connectors than just two but it doesn't make it not Plug N Play." then by those rules, the ESC would also be Plug n Play. And yes you don't have to replace the backbone harness, but for the same price its a bonus to get that harness.
I have no financial or any other benefit to the ESC or any other vendor on here, I'm just letting other bikers know there are other options out there.
As far as a scare tactic on the headlight, there have been many members over the years that have melted their headlight plug and yes by upgrading to a cooler LED is the way to go, I've received a LED bulb from you almost 2 years ago, the pictures on your website of the difference in the headlight bulbs is in fact of my 3 car garage because I posted those pictures, great bulb.
I understand you don't manufacture the RIP II, but there are still issues with it, like the guy that posted above about his high and low beam not working for 5 weeks and his mechanic could not get any help. I don't know the specifics other than what he posted, so is there still a quality issue? Terminals properly terminated do not fall off, I designed Crimp tooling for Hand Tools, Mini Applicators and high speed Lead making machinery for 42 yrs.
I'm sure this is not Axel's first rodeo with these type of boxes, but in the short amount of time that he's been working on it, he has come a long way and like you, I wish him luck and success with this because if he would have had this unit a year ago I would be running one of them in my bike. Recently when you checked out my EHC you told me they are prone to fail the cold start test, maybe his don't have that component in them. And when someone hooks a battery up wrong, well what can ya say, shit is going to happen.
"If you have a true bitch or complaint because you were screwed over and you were denied the help you needed thats one thing but to slip and slide around here like so many have been doing to try and trash others is bullshit, cowardly and assinine."
I have no clue what that comment above would pertain to?
However, If I have trashed or gave anyone the impression that I'm better than them, I will be the first to appologize, all my intention was to inform other members that there are other options and will continue to do so.
This is not a rant and I am no way upset, I have purchased many things from you in the past and will continue to purchase things in the future.
As you stated before, opinions are like assholes.
There are definitely issues with the RIP but they are owner/installer issues not product issues.
I can't help that a mechanic cannot figure out how to trouble shoot an issue. I spent aome time trying to help his mechanic to no avail.
I don't care who you are or how good you are there are times when the only way you can trouble shoot something is if you can put your hands on it. You don't have any way of knowing what they have or have not truly done. I've had three different bikes in my shop where the owner started the installation, swore their were issues with the kit and in the end it just took putting it in correctly. At the same time I have had customers with limited knnowledge and limited tools and they put it in in a couple of hurs without a single hitch. It just is what it is.
As none of my statement overall was pointed specifically at you but more towards all on this thread/forum the comment about having a bitch is generalized to those on this forum that do what I stated not towards you specifically.
"But if its the way you have stated: "Okay so you have to unplug a couple more connectors than just two but it doesn't make it not Plug N Play." then by those rules, the ESC would also be Plug n Play."
Again not a true statement. If you have to pull the backbone out of the bike then you can't really say plug and play.
But again its opinion so who really gives a shit other than the guy who would have to pull his gas tank, pull the harness out of the backbone and then pull a new harness back into the backbone before he can even start thinking about connecting anything else and then have to put his tank back on. I think there is definitely a difference.
Again not a rant just talking.
blacktopper
Active Member
I've got nearly 5000 miles on my new K9 with the RIP and it has worked perfectly even after riding in some HEAVY rainstorms on the trip to Daytona Bike week.Imagine that
That's another reason why I went with the ESC. Looks like there are still issues with the RIP II like there was with the RIP I. Your not the only one that has had problems with the RIP II, but I'm suprised after 5 weeks its still not right.
bigd1960
Active Member
Have to agree with you on that. Took my more than 2 months to get a reply to my email. In the end I was so frustrated that after the RIP got fixed I sold it, bought an ESC and had 0 problems installing it.
BigDogBro1
Made in the USA
Is there a link to Axel's true 10 minute plug n play EHC replacement?
Srodden
Well-Known Member
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Dog-EHC...ash=item25ba4012fc:g:twoAAOSwYmZXD-OG&vxp=mtr
That's all I've seen I haven't really searched yet.
That's all I've seen I haven't really searched yet.
BigDogBro1
Made in the USA
Made in Germany
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Dog-EHC/162040822021?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=36499&meid=77f4947c6d634a31a3c760c1ada853a4&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=10&sd=162038551292
Ebay website says incorrectly:
EHC 4C for 2004 models
EHC 58C for carbureted models between 2005 and 2008
EHC 58E for EFI models between 2005 and 2008
Bigdog did not have fuel injection on any bike until 2007 on the Bulldog model (first year)
Here is the link to the manual
http://www.elektronikbox.de/ehc_uk.html
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Big-Dog-EHC/162040822021?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid=222007&algo=SIC.MBE&ao=1&asc=36499&meid=77f4947c6d634a31a3c760c1ada853a4&pid=100011&rk=1&rkt=10&sd=162038551292
Ebay website says incorrectly:
EHC 4C for 2004 models
EHC 58C for carbureted models between 2005 and 2008
EHC 58E for EFI models between 2005 and 2008
Bigdog did not have fuel injection on any bike until 2007 on the Bulldog model (first year)
Here is the link to the manual
http://www.elektronikbox.de/ehc_uk.html
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francoblay1
The Spaniard
I've got nearly 5000 miles on my new ESC kit and it has worked perfectly even after riding in some rain, trips to local events and continues running every time. Good Choice IMHO.
There is always more than one way and one opinion. We all wants the same thing in the end. Keep this bikes on the ROAD.Hey I'm with all of you.........no hard feelings and if you can't take wholesome ribbing then please let me know so I don't effend you inadvertently............
I like doing a lot of research first if I have the time. See what others have or have not done. There is always a easier or better way, but if it worked and your back on the road. That is what is important in the long run.
no hard feelings Yes I bought one of Axel's EHC. I am willing to be a guinea pig. That is the only way we will know if it works after 20,000 miles.
Now for the box seats for the Sumo fight. Make mine by the bar.
