COOLANT QUESTION

coachk

Active Member
For the guys that have liquid cooled cycles (non BD's) do you have any preferences on cooloant. Will a Aluma-Cool Engine Coolant work?

Thanks
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Where do you live?

Water expands in the winter. The 50/50 keeps the water from blowing out the lines come freezing time.

Is plain old water better? Yes. Is plain old distilled water better for corrosion you see around the sink screen say than using tap water? I'd be pouring in distilled water for summer and 50/50 for those living wherever those hockey pucks come out to play.

What is my one killer from using straight distilled? A lube for my water pump blades and rubber seal if any. Isn't there some high speed water jet that cuts into metal? See that plain old water as a cutter, no lube?

So that's the deal. Know your freezing temps, know your lube ratio. Know the elixir in the bottle. The green or pink coolant has a lube property. So you run distilled and add a ratio of some coolant you are going to swap in the winter anyway.

It comes down to ratio. How much is used in the bike/car vs the lube being enough of a ratio to keep the pump from failing too soon. We on the same page?
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Do NASCAR engines use coolant

Life, get a LIFE call me nuts. Why no need for a lube for 500 miles? The pump has so many hours and off she goes with a new one. So if you are going to go back to the elixir, see market share ploy under 'oops, it's out of the bag.'


:roll:
 

bearman

Active Member
……Isn't there some high speed water jet that cuts into metal?.....
Do your research.
The high pressure water jet cutters use an abrasive in the water, and yes, this eventually eats away the jet nozzle and it has to be replaced.
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Do your research.
The high pressure water jet cutters use an abrasive in the water, and yes, this eventually eats away the jet nozzle and it has to be replaced.
Thank you. The most corrosive thing on earth is running water if you think about it. I'm sure the speeding up of the cutting was adding an abrasive. Still, moving water none the less.
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
Thank you. The most corrosive thing on earth is running water if you think about it. I'm sure the speeding up of the cutting was adding an abrasive. Still, moving water none the less.
ARE YOU NUTS! My business is water I drill huge wells for cities and municipalities! A well that makes no sand just water, the pumps last for 20-30 years. One that pumps abrasives like sand last a few years. As for using distilled water, it does not boil! Here's a chemistry test Sven. Go to yor stove and put a gallon of distilled water in a pot. Turn the burner on and put a themometer in the water. When the water reaches 212* nothing happens. Now drop in 1 grain of salt. IT WILL EXPLODE! Pure undistilled water with no desolved solids is NOT abrasive. GET YOUR FACTS STREIGHT!
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
As far as water cutting, yes it is a combination of high pressure water and the use of abrasive's being injected into the water before it leaves the nossle. Look at attached picture.
 

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Viking

Biker
sven is nuts!
I just want to add to the conversation that he is NOT nuts, quite the opposite actually. Yes, he might express himself slightly different than others, but he does know what he is talking about and have a waste amount of experience. All racing bikers use distilled water for obvious reasons, Sven suggested a mix between distilled water and some lubricating liquid. If that's nuts, then I'm nuts too. That being said my bikes has ran perfectly for the last 44 years with me being the sole mechanic on every one of them (and with there championships to boot), and Sven has even more experience than me...

Conclusion: Listen to Sven even if you have to read his post a few times to get what he means.
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
I just want to add to the conversation that he is NOT nuts, quite the opposite actually. Yes, he might express himself slightly different than others, but he does know what he is talking about and have a waste amount of experience. All racing bikers use distilled water for obvious reasons, Sven suggested a mix between distilled water and some lubricating liquid. If that's nuts, then I'm nuts too. That being said my bikes has ran perfectly for the last 44 years with me being the sole mechanic on every one of them (and with there championships to boot), and Sven has even more experience than me...

Conclusion: Listen to Sven even if you have to read his post a few times to get what he means.
Distilled water is water that has been boiled to a steam and then the steam brought back to a liquid, leaving all mineral forms behind. When you add a compound back into the distilled water such as oil which has mineral properties back into it, it is not distilled any more, it has solids back into it again is what i am saying. By adding anything to the distilled water you have defeated your purpose of using distilled water! If you think I am wrong do the test I told sven to do. Get a gallon of distilled water and bring it to 214* using a thermometer, then drop in a mineral, or oil . You damn well better be wearing protective wear!
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Your Nuts! Smart, Intelligent, Yes, Nuts Yes,.:roll::2thumbs:
Some say that there is a fine line between genius and insanity, maybe Sven is riding the line:D
Yes, he might express himself slightly different than others, but he does know what he is talking about...

Conclusion: Listen to Sven even if you have to read his post a few times to get what he means.
Thanks, guys. Viking :2thumbs: A Special Thanks!
 

pauly

Active Member
Use what the manufacture recommends, equivalent or better!

Distilled water + Antifreeze = Coolant
The ratio depends on your climate.
Do NOT just use distilled water because your engine components
will corrode in time! :cheers:

Fish tank and other small pumps have ceramic shafts that are lubricated
with water the pump pumps!!! Water is a lubricant but not suitable for every application. Coolant has extra lubricant added.
In water cutting water serves as propellant in my opinion.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. :)
Paul.
 

Srodden

Well-Known Member
I just want to add to the conversation that he is NOT nuts, quite the opposite actually. Yes, he might express himself slightly different than others, but he does know what he is talking about and have a waste amount of experience. All racing bikers use distilled water for obvious reasons, Sven suggested a mix between distilled water and some lubricating liquid. If that's nuts, then I'm nuts too. That being said my bikes has ran perfectly for the last 44 years with me being the sole mechanic on every one of them (and with there championships to boot), and Sven has even more experience than me...

Conclusion: Listen to Sven even if you have to read his post a few times to get what he means.
:iagree:
 
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