Class Action Suit Started - Please Read

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toadstool

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shovelcowboy said:
Ya know, they use to have wooden park benches and tables in parks. Then some asshole wasn't careful and appreciative and got a splinter in his ass. So instead of blaming himself for not being careful, he blamed (and sued) the ones who provided the park and the benches. Now there are no more wooden park benches and in some cases NO park benches and tables at all and Taxes are sky high!

Thanks, Asshole!:angry:

Shovelcowboy:loony:
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This is relevant how? The only connection I see is no benches, no BDM. Did someone get a splinter in their ass from a seat? Not really the same as a piece of equipment on a bike failing. I would like to see the actual documented failure rate.

I own a Porsche. There is discussion on a forum about a class action suite for a high failure rate on IMS barings. These guys don't bitch, or beat eachother up. They have discussions. If you don't agree, it doesn't mean the other person is bitching.

Pass the jungle juice......
 
Nukeranger

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:2thumbs:I can see the connection Ken the famous shovelcowboy:2thumbs:

Pretty much sums up the situation we are in - So, when are all the Doctors going away?:D
 
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Toadstool,
Do you have the same attitude on the Porsche forum as you do on this one? The relevance of the park bench statements should be as plain as the nose on your face.
Petty lawsuits, class action or otherwise, are what is pushing this country down the drain. It is what takes a good thing like park benches and makes it go away. Big Dog has already gone away.
 
toadstool

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shamrock said:
Toadstool,
Do you have the same attitude on the Porsche forum as you do on this one? The relevance of the park bench statements should be as plain as the nose on your face.
Petty lawsuits, class action or otherwise, are what is pushing this country down the drain. It is what takes a good thing like park benches and makes it go away. Big Dog has already gone away.
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I work in the medical field and have to go out of my way to protect myself from such petty lawsuits. I agree that this is a sue happy country. I am not advocating a law suit against BDM; I am not advocating the right to come here and whine like a little girl who just dropped her ice cream on the side walk. I don't like endless complaining either. That being said, the entire point I have been trying to make has been lost in translation. Why is it that someone can come here and not complain, but simply have a different point of view and half the forum jumps down their throat in consession. I dont see that on the Porsche forum. Just yesterday someone posted a discussion that they were thinking about selling their 2002 986 because of high maintance costs and asked for input. No one clubbed them over their head whereas here they would have been subjected to ridicule and petty bull shit. "Get some tools, learn to work on the bike or sell it, go get a honda..." Fuck you. In summary, careful wording will get you far and don't be so damn quick to drink the jungle juice and beat the piss out of people.

I guess there are not as many pompus assholes on the porsche forum that rub me the wrong way.
 
01Mastiff

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Don't take the shit personally. Anyone who wants to bring legal action against BD good for them. Bottom line is BD used EHC's for their whole time in business, which they knew were not working. It was a bad idea from start to finish to use them on a piece of machinery that viberates. They used tank liners that they knew failed from the start and kept using them and did not tell anyone they were failing in large numbers and offer to fix them. This was an expensive bike that BD did not stand behind unless forced to. Granted it was put together by folks that made tents and camp stoves, which might shed some light on the situation, but they never tried to take advantage of any learning curve. Unfortunately it's about a day late and a dollar short to file legal action.
 
C00lHandLuke

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Whether or not parts on certain BDMs are faulty or not is really irrelevant in my opinion. Class Action Lawsuits benefit no one but the attorneys who start them. They are one of the largest miscarriages of the American judicial system, and I wouldn't have any part of one. Attorneys get as many people to sign up for them as possible, but after their lions share of the settlement, they give the plantiffs pennies (literally). I'm not going to pound on the original poster or anything but I will say that I can't help but be amazed that someone in the medical profession would particpate in such a petty endeavor. Unless a company did something grossly negligent that caused serious injury to me or my family, I would not even consider a lawsuit, and under no circumstances would I ever enter, and damn sure not admit to a class action one.

Another thing, I think the people who visit and post on this site regularly do so out of a fondness, not just for their particular BDM, but for Big Dog Motorcycles in general. So when someone wants to kick the company when its already down, people can take that somewhat personal. So when you come on here talking about turning the knife a little more, what do you expect?

No Offense

Just My dos centavos.
 
tommy666

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Squeezing water from a stone. Another worthless attempt trying to justify absolutely nothing. Good luck and go kick yourself in your ass.
 
PaulHart

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Anyone who buys a 10 year old Porsche and believes it to be a daily dependable driver deserves what they get. If you don't have the time or some mechanical ability to fix it yourself then you pay a Porsche mechanic $100 an hour to fix it for you. Then in turn he can afford the payment on his 2012 Porsche and round and round goes this world of ours. If you can't afford to fix your toys when they break don't buy them. Greysonkatz goes out and buys a 7 year old, solid moter mounted, hot rod, hard tail of a motorcycle and is surprised when something goes wrong. Did he do any research at all? If he'd come here with a problem members would have bent over backwards to help. Coming on here and whining that my 7 year old used bike is broke and I'm calling an attorney is not going to get you a sympathetic response. Take responsibility for your own actions. You bought a used motorcycle and did very little research on it obviously. There was plenty of info out there. Spend another $1000 have someone rewire it and go enjoy your toy in the manner you bought it for. If you want a coast to coast dependable ride though I'd suggest a BMW.
 
phatchopper300

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PaulHart said:
Anyone who buys a 10 year old Porsche and believes it to be a daily dependable driver deserves what they get. If you don't have the time or some mechanical ability to fix it yourself then you pay a Porsche mechanic $100 an hour to fix it for you. Then in turn he can afford the payment on his 2012 Porsche and round and round goes this world of ours. If you can't afford to fix your toys when they break don't buy them. Greysonkatz goes out and buys a 7 year old solid moter mounted hot rod hard tail of a motorcycle and is surprised when something goes wrong. Did he do any research at all? If he'd come here with a problem members would have bent over backwards to help. Coming on here and whining that my 7 year old used bike is broke and I'm calling an attorney is not going to get you a sympathetic response. Take responsibility for your own actions. You bought a kick ass, hard tail, head turning motorcycle and did very little research on it obviously. Spend another $1000 have someone rewire it and go enjoy your toy in the manner you bought it for. If you want a coast to coast dependable ride though I'd suggest a BMW.
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Think that sums it up!!:cheers::2thumbs:
 
9secondsflat

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Dont every buy one of those blue pills...god forbid it only keeps you up for 3:59 minutes we will never hear the end of it.
 
KnotSo

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toadstool said:
This is relevant how? The only connection I see is no benches, no BDM. Did someone get a splinter in their ass from a seat? Not really the same as a piece of equipment on a bike failing. I would like to see the actual documented failure rate.

I own a Porsche. There is discussion on a forum about a class action suite for a high failure rate on IMS barings. These guys don't bitch, or beat eachother up. They have discussions. If you don't agree, it doesn't mean the other person is bitching.

Pass the jungle juice......
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Shovelcowboys analogy is very clear and relevant.

I have a handfull of friends with porsche's, though most are track cars and they are on many forums. I asked one this morning what his forums are like and he said the ones he is on are just like this forum and his gixxer forum. Says "People having a good time, much like most forums" and wants to know specifically what site you are on. He also tracks a beamer and says one site is calm and boring and a couple are laid back. He will provide the sites if needed.
So yeah, if you could, specifically, what porsche site is as you suggest?:cheers:


Paul is absolutely correct, many in our society are quick to yell law suit or play the blame game, and never understand the concept of personal responsibility, nor will they take any.
 
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toadstool

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KnotSo said:
Shovelcowboys analogy is very clear and relevant.

I have a handfull of friends with porsche's, though most are track cars and they are on many forums. I asked one this morning what his forums are like and he said the ones he is on are just like this forum and his gixxer forum. Says "People having a good time, much like most forums" and wants to know specifically what site you are on. He also tracks a beamer and says one site is calm and boring and a couple are laid back. He will provide the sites if needed.
So yeah, if you could, specifically, what porsche site is as you suggest?:cheers:


Paul is absolutely correct, many in our society are quick to yell law suit or play the blame game, and never understand the concept of personal responsibility, nor will they take any.
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Yearly repairs? Thinking of selling - 986 Forum - for Porsche Boxster Owners and Others

Yes some people say fix the 986 yourself and you will save money, but no one was a complete dick like so many on here love to be.

Shovelcowboys analogy is fucking retarded. If let’s say 20% of the park benches fell apart when someone sat on them, like let’s say 20% of big dogs either have ECH issues or tank liners falling apart, or voltage regulators catching fire rendering them unusable, that would be more of a comparison. Not one splinter in an ass.... Get a life. Sometimes bringing attention to flaws saves people. Let’s say Porsche had a voltage regulator issue and the cars burst into flames and people with balls stood up and voiced concern to the company and they were forced to fix the issues instead of producing potential fire bombs. I personally believe BDM was aware of these flaws and continued to produce an inferior product, for whatever reason. How could they not have known? They have reports of service and warranty work. I am about ready to believe that this site is full of BDM plants that rally to make people feel guilty for thinking their bike sucks every now and then.

I agree Paul is absolutely correct. Maybe BDM should have taken some personal responsibility as well.
 
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