Brew
Troop Supporter
Heard about this earlier today. They believe more is come, it's not over...
Texas shootout among rival biker gangs leaves 9 dead
Texas shootout among rival biker gangs leaves 9 dead
Biker Gang shoot out in Waco
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Very strange that Twin Peaks would have wanted them all there. All 3 Biker Gangs in one small restaurant, that's just asking for trouble.
Twin Peaks has bikini Contest starting up and they are smart and don't hold them on weekends, the one in Waco is on the 20th, so not sure what got all these guys in place. Most likely will be cancelled due to the above.
Twin Peaks has bikini Contest starting up and they are smart and don't hold them on weekends, the one in Waco is on the 20th, so not sure what got all these guys in place. Most likely will be cancelled due to the above.
I had read this AM that there have been issues at that restaurant before. I've never been to that location, when I head South I usually try and stay off 35, especially on the rigid that highway will break my back, like riding a bucking bronco.
Austin has said it won't spill over into their city, hopefully that holds true. ROT is in 2 weeks.
Austin has said it won't spill over into their city, hopefully that holds true. ROT is in 2 weeks.
liferider
Looking forward to retirement
Considering what the Europe chapters gang war's do to each other this was quite calm. In Germany they have resorted to shooting RPG's at each others club house while church is in service! Hells Angels and the Bandito's logos are not allowed on the internet in Germany and it's either the Bandito's or Hells angels that are now not allowed to wear there cuts in public by order of a German Federal Magistrate
JR03CHOPPER
Well-Known Member
During Bikeweek we saw some of our local Outlaws hanging around with some Bandidos. Thought it was interesting considering.... We had a shootout here in Orlando recenty, but it was two different factions of the Warlocks. Inter-club issue I guess.
BadDawg Bill
Well-Known Member
Read an interesting comment post on one of the alt news sites today. A biker that was there said that a FBI informant who was infiltrating one of the clubs started the fight on purpose and it escalated out into the parking lot as planned. The swat team was already there along with the local police and the club members fought with fists only no guns. The swat team/police watched it all and did nothing until some of the bikers tried to leave that's when they opened fire and killed them on their bikes. (in the pics you can see them laying on the ground next to their over turned bikes)
Seems like a setup to me if this is true and what a better way to get 190 bikers in jail on RECO charges at one time. Just a thought. Not everything on the MSM news is true.... Think about this just some food for thought:
1- They were there since Friday with no cops and no trouble until Sunday morning then a swat team and over 100 cops show up just before the fight.
2- How come the only bikers shot are on the ground next to their over turned bikes? I suspect they had enough and wanted to leave. Who shot them? The swat team or other bikers that knew a swat team and 100+ cops were watching with guns? I don't think even they are that stupid. Fist fighting is one thing but murder is another.
3- The rules were no weapons allowed. no guns, knives, brass knuckles so where did all these guns come from? In the middle of a brawl there would be little time to get to your bike and get a gun.
4- Another thing the wife brought up. If you look at all the pics the vests are brand new. Not a stain or wear mark on them. Not like the clubs I've ever seen. What's up with that?
I don't trust the main stream news anymore because they twist everything into the story they want you to hear. Every site has the same pics, same words, same angle. Sure, these guys are outlaws but did it go down as they are saying?
In 34 years of law enforcement, this is the worst crime scene, the most violent crime scene that I have been involved in,' Waco police Sgt W Patrick Swanton said at a Sunday press conference. ' Well, how about the 80 innocent men, women and children the cops killed a few years ago in Waco....
Seems like a setup to me if this is true and what a better way to get 190 bikers in jail on RECO charges at one time. Just a thought. Not everything on the MSM news is true.... Think about this just some food for thought:
1- They were there since Friday with no cops and no trouble until Sunday morning then a swat team and over 100 cops show up just before the fight.
2- How come the only bikers shot are on the ground next to their over turned bikes? I suspect they had enough and wanted to leave. Who shot them? The swat team or other bikers that knew a swat team and 100+ cops were watching with guns? I don't think even they are that stupid. Fist fighting is one thing but murder is another.
3- The rules were no weapons allowed. no guns, knives, brass knuckles so where did all these guns come from? In the middle of a brawl there would be little time to get to your bike and get a gun.
4- Another thing the wife brought up. If you look at all the pics the vests are brand new. Not a stain or wear mark on them. Not like the clubs I've ever seen. What's up with that?
I don't trust the main stream news anymore because they twist everything into the story they want you to hear. Every site has the same pics, same words, same angle. Sure, these guys are outlaws but did it go down as they are saying?
In 34 years of law enforcement, this is the worst crime scene, the most violent crime scene that I have been involved in,' Waco police Sgt W Patrick Swanton said at a Sunday press conference. ' Well, how about the 80 innocent men, women and children the cops killed a few years ago in Waco....
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
You are right, do not MSN is true, nor for that matter Fox, CBS, NBC, CNN, ABC or any and all other media. That said I would lean more to them than what some alternative site site by a biker that was so called there. Hell the way the news is passing stuff, any biker that was anywhere near there, regardless if they were involved or not would be in jail or being processed now with what is reported as $1 million bail set.
Also the initial reports indicate about 25 police where there in the area when it went down at first, not 100+, though no doubt there was that many and more once the shooting started. As far as being by the bikes, they way I see the picture with so many bikes there in that parking lot, it would be very hard to not fall by a bike and yes I am sure many were just wanting to get the hell out of there.
Who knows, I sure do not, but I feel pretty damn confident that all those bikers there were not involved and many were just there as part of the event and not involved to the degree that other were. Nonetheless no doubt in my mind that there were some tension between some of the groups there and it escalated. It is not the first time and sadly will not be the last time. Remember Laughlin, than the Nordic Bike Wars, Ontario, stuff down in the land of OZ and Kiwis. These things are real and still happen.
Oh in regards to new vest, many of them seem to be of the same group of Clubs I never heard of and some of them were probably very recent and may have got into something they didn't bargin for.
Sad day, and I have a strong feeling there will be more issues in the near future tied into this.
It will be interesting to see the facts come out once they are fully known, but for me I highly doubt the alt news info, even more than the legit media.
Peckerwood
Active Member
Not to get too political, but I must say, BadDawg Bill, I couldn't agree with you more, ESPECIALLY your closing comment.
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
Just read that it was a Texas Region 1 Confederation of Clubs meeting billed under United Clubs of Waco. CoC are used to help keep peace and resolve issues where possible including use of patch and new clubs with the dominate club. Also could be why so many and why so many new patches.
Take everything with a grain of salt though, facts are still sketching on everything right now.
Take everything with a grain of salt though, facts are still sketching on everything right now.
liferider
Looking forward to retirement
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