Bike Dies Again !!

[Dugan]

The wife and I rode around 180 miles today and my bike is back to the same ole crap . Running down the road and it just quits . Pull the clutch in and hit start button it fires up and runs like it never died . This happende about 15 times in 180 miles .
Is their any way to figure out if it is a carb issue or a electrical problem . When I restart it the speedo and the tach is all wacky . Usually stuck where it died . Im guessing this is because it did not get recycled before restarting .
I will take it to tulsa if I cant figure it out but hell thats 2 hours away and the warranty will be up in a few months . I need to get it fixed before then for sure
Any ideas would be appreciated . Thanks

 

[Dugan]

Dont know how this got on here twice . Please delete one if possible .
Thanks

 

[Daddycool]

my buddy's Mastiff did the same thing but it only did it once that I know of. He never took it in. good luck.

Taking a guess here but you might try to make sure EHC is plugged in nice and tight.

 

[Vegas]

And full of dielectric grease.

 

[woodbutcher]

wrap some long wire ties around the thing to make sure the connections don't let go again along with the di-electric grease vegas was sayin'.

 

[Moespeeds]

I just had this exact problem with a 2005 Chopper. Turns out his key switch went bad. It loses connection for a split second, just long enough to kill the ignition. As soon as you press RUN the ignition powers back up and the bike starts running again. The tach goes through it's startup procedure because it thinks you just turned the power back on.

 

[Raywood]

When you say it dies do you mean that it just shuts off as if you turned the key off or is sputtering like it's running out of gas?

I would ask you if you have a gaggle of keys hanging on the key ring? If so then get rid of all of them.

If it's sputtering then check the gas cap to see if it's venting properly.

 

[Dugan]

Have nothing but the BDM key and yes it just dies like you turned a kill switch . No spit no sputter no nothing . It kinda makes a guy look like a dumb shit . .
Im gonna go out and start it and iggle the key around first . Keep ya posted .
Thanks

 

[K9Man]

I'm having this exact same problem on my '08 K-9. I live 225 miles from the Big Dog dealer and they had my bike for 4 weaks trying to fix this problem. Finally they said it was the battery. They replaced the battery and it ran fine for about 200 miles and now it is doing it again. It dies just like you said and I have to turn the key off then back on and it starts right back up. It runs great in between but this is a real pain in the butt....Anyone have any suggestions?

 

[RRRUFF]

Loose connection, faulty ignition switch, or wire grounding out. I think any erratic electrical connection or grounding will cause the ehc to kick out to protect it self. Thats why you can shut it down and it will start back up. Check wiring conections and maybe try a jumper wire on the ignition and see if it still has the problem. Any way just my 2 cents worth.

 

[Dugan]

Checked all connections and the gas cap . Everything looks good . I would say a weak battery would do it but I keep mine on a tender and the battery tests good . Im at loss and really dont want to go 2 or 3 weeks without the dog in the spring time .

 

[Vegas]

You say it dies like a kill switch....do you still have the headlight, neutral light when it quits?

 

[Dugan]

DIES

You say it dies like a kill switch....do you still have the headlight, neutral light when it quits?

If I remember right the neutral light only comes back on when I hit the RUN button . As far as the headlamp cant say for sure . I dont have time to check Im just trying to keep from getting my ass mowed down by a BIG RIG (LOL)

 

[K9Man]

Do you have to turn the key off then back on to start it again? Just trying to see if yours is doing the exact same thing mine is doing. I'm going to haul mine back to dealer to get worked on (225 miles) and I can tell you what they find out. Like I said, last time they had it for 4 weaks and all they could come up with was the battery sending a split second bad current so they replaced the battery. This worked for awhile but it is back to doing the same thing as yours now. Just so you know, they also checked the ignition and the gas cap (which was a problem on previous models they claimed) but those checked out fine. I understand what you are going through. It is very frustrating when the dealer has it for such a long time and cant fix the problem. I didnt spend $39,000 to be restarting my bike all the time and having to haul it 225 miles one way to find out they cant even find the problem. I will try the dealer again and let you know what I find out.

 

[Dugan]

Do you have to turn the key off then back on to start it again? Just trying to see if yours is doing the exact same thing mine is doing. I'm going to haul mine back to dealer to get worked on (225 miles) and I can tell you what they find out. Like I said, last time they had it for 4 weaks and all they could come up with was the battery sending a split second bad current so they replaced the battery. This worked for awhile but it is back to doing the same thing as yours now. Just so you know, they also checked the ignition and the gas cap (which was a problem on previous models they claimed) but those checked out fine. I understand what you are going through. It is very frustrating when the dealer has it for such a long time and cant fix the problem. I didnt spend $39,000 to be restarting my bike all the time and having to haul it 225 miles one way to find out they cant even find the problem. I will try the dealer again and let you know what I find out.

No I dont have to turn the key but if I dont my tach and speedo might not work correctly when I get it going again . Please keep me posted on what you find out .

 

[K9Man]

Ok, will do...

 

[Dugan]

Dying

OK took it for a spin on the hi way this morning . Started the crap right off the batt. Died 4 times with in a mile or so . Ar far as the head lite it stays on . May just be me but it seems like it does it when you get all over it . I cant be 100% sure though . Everything goes out except the oil light . Like I say if you dont recycle the key speedo is all jacked up . If you do cycle the key its like nothing ever happened until it does it again .
Surely someone has had this problem before . This thing just hit 600 miles .And come on its 80 degrees out . I dont need this shit ..::bang:

 

[Raywood]

OK took it for a spin on the hi way this morning . Started the crap right off the batt. Died 4 times with in a mile or so . Ar far as the head lite it stays on . May just be me but it seems like it does it when you get all over it . I cant be 100% sure though . Everything goes out except the oil light . Like I say if you dont recycle the key speedo is all jacked up . If you do cycle the key its like nothing ever happened until it does it again .
Surely someone has had this problem before . This thing just hit 600 miles .And come on its 80 degrees out . I dont need this shit ..::bang:

Looking like you might have a bad EHC but before you do anything more pm Night Train and see what he says. He's the expert along with Ohmster.

:2thumbs:

 

[Gas Man]

Have you checked the battery connections, both for the ring terminal still on good (big wires) and tightness to the battery, and the ring terminal for the ehc?

 

[Night Train]

Best thing to do is get it into the dealer and have them work thru the issue with the factory. That being said we can start to eliminate things it shouldn't be with a little more information. Get yourself a pencil and paper to record information. Go out to a road with little to no traffic. Ride the bike till you get it to fail. Do not touch the off/run button or the key switch. Pull over to the side of the road and remove the set. Tell me what lights are light or blinking on the EHC and also what lights you see on the ignition module (mainly is the red light on or off on the ignition module). Do a walk around of the bike and note what all the lights are doing. Once your record all the information hit the start button to see if the starter will engage. If it does and it starts get it home and let me know what you recorded. If it does not start then hit the run button and try again. If it start get home and post, if it does not cycle the key and then get home and post.