Big Dog looking for investors...

[zipsman03]

The national debt to me is like a credit card bill in my house, no matter who WAS responsible; the bill must be paid. So if it takes raising my taxes a little; so be it. I really don't think we have a choice at this point. As for Big Dog and most other industries, they made hay during the credit boom, now reality has hit, and it hurts.

 

[Eric]

Only till we get a republican in office to lower taxes ect. Obomba is killing the middle class and small business. BDM will be fine.

shit thats why my bussiness has been having trouble ... WHO WOULD HAVE DONE THIS surely not B.O. remember no increase in taxes to middle class... RIGHT...we are all fucked

 

[chaingunner]

The national debt to me is like a credit card bill in my house, no matter who WAS responsible; the bill must be paid. So if it takes raising my taxes a little; so be it. I really don't think we have a choice at this point. As for Big Dog and most other industries, they made hay during the credit boom, now reality has hit, and it hurts.

You can always donate since your so willing to raise everyone else tax level.... I mean put your money where your mouth is. You really can do this.

Let's not limit spending and welfare to reduce the waste and use the excess money flow from cutting this fat to pay down the debt. That'd be too obvious, I mean if I were DUMB enough to carry a credit card balance, then I'd be cutting my drinking money, limiting my out to eat budget, no parts for the dog, etc so that I could pay that card off!

 

[zipsman03]

Don't get me wrong, I would like to keep all my money, however that is not the way the game works. I am just thankful that I am able to pay what ever taxes that are imposed on me, and that some of that money will go to those who are not as fortunate be it voluntaken or volunteered. I hope the economy turns around soon, as I would rather have a bike that is owned by a company still in business than not.

 

[chaingunner]

I hope the economy turns around soon, as I would rather have a bike that is owned by a company still in business than not.

We can agree on that!

 

[yavcon]

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Rep. Dem. - just two sides of the same ruling class elite coin in my opinion.

It's not how much tax we pay, it's how it's spent.

Every person reading this who pays taxes pay's too much tax.

Wasn't the MAIN catalyst of the American Revolution having to pay England 2.5% tax. And THAT was an outrage. The sheeple are too far gone for a new revolution, so by my estimate in 2050 we will all pay about 70% tax, and you know what?
..................it still wont be enough.
Raising taxes isn't the answer. They are constantly being raised and were worse off then ever. We need someone outside the good ol boy network to get in power, avoid being assassinated (yeah, good luck there) and control spending so that taxes can be lowered to a reasonable amount. Then and only then will the middle class thrive and then American companies like Big Dog will too. Otherwise, were all doomed.
....Taps quietly playing in the background.

 

[TEXASDOG]

Tax the hell out of the rich and if that doesn't work put bounties on their heads.

 

[K9Anniv]

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Rep. Dem. - just two sides of the same ruling class elite coin in my opinion.

It's not how much tax we pay, it's how it's spent.

Every person reading this who pays taxes pay's too much tax.

Wasn't the MAIN catalyst of the American Revolution having to pay England 2.5% tax. And THAT was an outrage. The sheeple are too far gone for a new revolution, so by my estimate in 2050 we will all pay about 70% tax, and you know what?
..................it still wont be enough.
Raising taxes isn't the answer. They are constantly being raised and were worse off then ever. We need someone outside the good ol boy network to get in power, avoid being assassinated (yeah, good luck there) and control spending so that taxes can be lowered to a reasonable amount. Then and only then will the middle class thrive and then American companies like Big Dog will too. Otherwise, were all doomed.
....Taps quietly playing in the background.

Sadly, I agree...:zzsorry::zzdisappointed:

 

[Steve1028]

Reduce imports and put America back to work!:flag:

 

[KnotSo]

so by my estimate in 2050 we will all pay about 70% tax

My folks and greandparents can remember when the highest tax rate for ppl was 70-80% right here in the USA.

Tax the hell out of the rich and if that doesn't work put bounties on their heads

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If you work hard, do well, these ppl should be treated fairly.

I will also say I do not mind paying taxes as I enjoy what they pay for. Roads are better than they could be, freedom is not cheap, there are numerous things I am more than happy to help pay for. Of course there are things I do not agree with, but the good comes with the bad. Overall, I would rather pay a lil more for what we have than a lot more for a lot less. Just my opinion and not looking to get into a pissing contest.

If BDM went public, I would invest for the long run. This is a great product, BDM owns this high end motorcycle market, BDM has great Customer Service, Great Employees, and Sheldon Coleman is a seriously savey manager. Invest in BDM? hell yes. Coming out the other end of this down period in history will be a period of "gotta have" buyers. If the choices are HD, BDM, Victory or the other companies, i want in on the speciality market. My IRA has a nice dose of HD, yet would love to own the high end bike segment. BTW, Victory will do very well in the future also.

The topic of this thread was investing in BDM.
We could probably not invest individualy, but could possibly invest in the investment group that will then own BDM.
Even that may not be possible if we cannot commit millions to said group.
Still, if possible, I believe enough in this product that I would.

I wish the very best for Sheldon Coleman and hope he can keep his dream alive for all of us that enjoy his vision of a great motorcycle.

 

[barhopper]

Its easy to say I will pay more when you can afford it. Many in America can't afford it. If
Gov would reduce itself by 20%, reduce all the benefits, waste it pays itself, rediculous retirement, then I would have more trust in them. But this admin loves more more more and spend whatever. God Bless America. I hope there is one in 20 years.

 

[Lightweight BigDog]

I thought religion and politics were to be non-topics here? These are two areas where no person is right and no person is wrong, just opinions and you know what those are like! ...... Back to BDM! I would invest given the opportunity because i believe in the product and people like us that ride/own. Though a small time person like myself could not have much if any of an impact ..... though as a group? Hmmmmm .......... Interesting!

 

[yavcon]

I thought religion and politics were to be non-topics here? These are two areas where no person is right and no person is wrong, just opinions and you know what those are like! ...... Back to BDM! I would invest given the opportunity because i believe in the product and people like us that ride/own. Though a small time person like myself could not have much if any of an impact ..... though as a group? Hmmmmm .......... Interesting!

Your right, my apologies.
The thread topic naturally evolved in that direction.
The best forums I belong to have separate areas for religion and politics. And I avoid those areas like a plague. It sucks liking someone for years then realizing in one post that they are a complete asshole. haha!

Merry Christmas to most, and let there be Festivus for the rest of us.