Battery gone after only 8 months

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BruceMerc

Member
Ran the bike (2008 Mastiff Carb) two weeks ago for a 200 mile ride. Multiple stops and she fired up just fine every time. Put the bike on the tender when I got home and now 2 weeks later tried to start it and only had enough juice to operate the lights, horn and turn signals. I been having the bike now nearly 3 years. The battery that came with the bike was a YUASA GYZ20HL with 310 CCA and it outlasted the new battery B2015 Braille. The battery did act similar a few weeks before the ride but I was able to charge it and it seemed to do fine. There were good reviews on the battery so I went with it but maybe I have a bad one or one with a week cell. I removed the battery and tried a slow charge on it......showed full charge....back on the bike and after a few slow spins it was out. Had the battery tested at Auto Zone and did not pass the load test. Not sure if at this point I want to deal with the warranty and shipping or just go buy a YUASA or Harley battery locally. Bruce
 

Unsprung

In the Potters hand...
Received battery from Braille. Installed it and bike fired right up, almost effortless. Still think I will purchase a Micro-Start XP-3 just for insurance.
Good deal, I carry a similar jumper and it has been used to jump my GMC truck great product and easy to carry. :old2:
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
Home he buys a leftover 2009 with the original dry battery not prepped. I call yuasa and ask how the self life is going to turn out with a sitter this old, with/possible seal broken? He says, 'we buy the comp's batteries, run our routine against theirs to see the outcome.' His process was, 'we fill the acid, let it soak in the pleats for an hour at least.' 'We charge the battery, then run it down to 1 or 2v and then recharge it back up>>> 3 times is the charm.' 'This puts the battery in a well charged environment...' is the paraphrasing.

So home he connects a brake light and high beam off the battery and lets it burn down until the battery goes dead. Then home, he asks on the other end, 'watt happens you throw 10 amps at it with a car charger?' The tech comes back and says, 'oh sure, use this, but the trick is not to overcook the plates, so check the case for heat and do not let it get hot for that long with 10a being thrown at it...' was the paraphrase.

Then home he understands to use a 1.5a rated charger at a 14amp hour battery, not connect some 1.2a rated charger at a 14a battery, where the math computes as a 12v-12a battery needs a 1.2a rated charger and charged for [literally] 12 hours is the formula. The trick is not to use a 1.2a rated charger on a 1.4a size battery or you are .2v down on a full charge. Force the 10a at it so it exceeds the bike's mini-charger and that [low] rated output. Check the output number on that charger you have.

So home he buys a 1.5a rated charger, hooks the 10a at it for less than 4 hours or she cooks the pleats to a separation point... how? Boiling the plate and that bubble expands in the fiber and tears it open. Therefore, it's a short charge time so as not to cook the liquid to expand the bubbles larger, but to have the bubbles ooze out like champagne bubbles clung to the glass and those bubble sizes are more like what you are looking for... internally speaking.

When home he measured the battery at 12.4v at the static, not 12.8v, home he took the 10a and cooked more heat at it so the value would exceed 12.6v and be fully charged at a static 12.8v. I had to reach that level or I was no better off with a 1.2a rated charger. After 3 times of bringing the battery down to a dead 1v reading, home he still has the same battery in the bike. So say the bike was built in 2008 sometime, sat on the dealer floor till 2010, home he puts the battery into service per yuasa's way of charging the competition/their batteries... Hello? Can you tell me how to charge a new battery to last longer than a year?

Home he bets no battery is prepped at this level, then handed to you over the counter; is fat chance... hello?

Signed,
NOLTY (no one listens to yuasa)

P.S.

Stuputt home he forgot to turn off the remote toggle of the AFR meter. Next day he turns the key on and oh look, a dead battery! Home he then charges the battery with his 1.5a charger, [was prepped the same yuasa's pre-service = 3-times], but this time was charged once for this event. This 2012 year battery came back up to a full charge as if nothing happened... I rest my [battery] case.
 

chubs

Guru
Home he buys a leftover 2009 with the original dry battery not prepped. I call yuasa and ask how the self life is going to turn out with a sitter this old, with/possible seal broken? He says, 'we buy the comp's batteries, run our routine against theirs to see the outcome.' His process was, 'we fill the acid, let it soak in the pleats for an hour at least.' 'We charge the battery, then run it down to 1 or 2v and then recharge it back up>>> 3 times is the charm.' 'This puts the battery in a well charged environment...' is the paraphrasing.

So home he connects a brake light and high beam off the battery and lets it burn down until the battery goes dead. Then home, he asks on the other end, 'watt happens you throw 10 amps at it with a car charger?' The tech comes back and says, 'oh sure, use this, but the trick is not to overcook the plates, so check the case for heat and do not let it get hot for that long with 10a being thrown at it...' was the paraphrase.

Then home he understands to use a 1.5a rated charger at a 14amp hour battery, not connect some 1.2a rated charger at a 14a battery, where the math computes as a 12v-12a battery needs a 1.2a rated charger and charged for [literally] 12 hours is the formula. The trick is not to use a 1.2a rated charger on a 1.4a size battery or you are .2v down on a full charge. Force the 10a at it so it exceeds the bike's mini-charger and that [low] rated output. Check the output number on that charger you have.

So home he buys a 1.5a rated charger, hooks the 10a at it for less than 4 hours or she cooks the pleats to a separation point... how? Boiling the plate and that bubble expands in the fiber and tears it open. Therefore, it's a short charge time so as not to cook the liquid to expand the bubbles larger, but to have the bubbles ooze out like champagne bubbles clung to the glass and those bubble sizes are more like what you are looking for... internally speaking.

When home he measured the battery at 12.4v at the static, not 12.8v, home he took the 10a and cooked more heat at it so the value would exceed 12.6v and be fully charged at a static 12.8v. I had to reach that level or I was no better off with a 1.2a rated charger. After 3 times of bringing the battery down to a dead 1v reading, home he still has the same battery in the bike. So say the bike was built in 2008 sometime, sat on the dealer floor till 2010, home he puts the battery into service per yuasa's way of charging the competition/their batteries... Hello? Can you tell me how to charge a new battery to last longer than a year?

Home he bets no battery is prepped at this level, then handed to you over the counter; is fat chance... hello?

Signed,
NOLTY (no one listens to yuasa)

P.S.

Stuputt home he forgot to turn off the remote toggle of the AFR meter. Next day he turns the key on and oh look, a dead battery! Home he then charges the battery with his 1.5a charger, [was prepped the same yuasa's pre-service = 3-times], but this time was charged once for this event. This 2012 year battery came back up to a full charge as if nothing happened... I rest my [battery] case.
I don't mean to sound rude, Sven, but what the hell was all that?
 

Little-Boo

Well-Known Member
Troop Supporter
I don't mean to sound rude, Sven, but what the hell was all that?
You are not being rude at all, what you need to do is ask Sven what was he smoking at the time he wrote all that shit. Read it twice or more and by that time either you give up or start smoking the same shit. The problem is that even after the smoke clears it still doesn't make sense. :eek:

Carlos :oldlaugh: :oldlaugh: :oldhardlaugh: :oldhardlaugh:
 
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chubs

Guru
You are not being rude at all, what you need to do is ask Seven what was he smoking at the time he wrote all that shit. Read it twice or more and by that time either you give up or start smoking the same shit. The problem is that even after the smoke clears it still doesn't make sense. :eek:

Carlos :oldlaugh: :oldlaugh: :oldhardlaugh: :oldhardlaugh:
Home I read comment no sense therefor reading incorrect. I put on glasses still no sense. Home I bang head on table, some confusion cleared. light doobie more clearer. ah heck, now I understand. Better living through chemistry.
 

Unsprung

In the Potters hand...
Home I read comment no sense therefor reading incorrect. I put on glasses still no sense. Home I bang head on table, some confusion cleared. light doobie more clearer. ah heck, now I understand. Better living through chemistry.
Alright Chubs, that is not cool, funny as heck though. HAhahahaha...and I understood it.
 
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