ballencing balls instead of tire weights

Energy One

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
OK, I did something yesterday. I had a new tire put on the Dog. Instead of wheel wieghts. They ballance the tires with temp weights to find out how much weight is needed. Say your tire needs 4 ounces of weight to ballence it. Then they pop the tire bead and drop into the tire 4 ounces of 1/2 ounce ballancing balls. They just roll around inside your tire. When you get rolling centrifical force throws the balls to the unballenced areas of the tire until the tire becomes completely ballanced out at about 15 mph. Here is litature on the system for any vehicle from cars, trucks, jeeps up to 18 wheeler semi's. It fits between the break drum and the rim.
 

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Sven

Well-Known Member
Get out your decoderings LOL

I am going to try and walk this as slow as possible. Gonna dumb it down... Here we go:

Pro:
I'm going to statically balance a wheel and you know I mean weights, as opposed to ballance with balls. Because I can set my wheel in any position after a balance...

Con: I cannot do that with a ballanced wheel.


Pro:
If we had a slow race, I would have perfect balance all the way around.

Con: If a bike was ballanced, handling a slow race, the imbalance would be more weight on the heavy side is more ball that is out of ballance.

Pro:
In this category, I do not find the tire changing to be a mess. It is what it is.

Con: Again, part for part, you have a mess on your hands if you didn't think of the next step about that tire once being new and now, it's time to get out the shop vac.


Pro:
If I spin the tire once the 360, it is balanced.

Con:
If I spin around, shake a leg, I just ran a mile, I keep shaking it, the other one finally lets go, well, it is like saying; If I spun once is the wheel of the ballanced 360, it would not collect the balls all in the opposite direction = Is one spin.

Pro:
I'm real slow at this. I have taken it down to one turn of the wheel. I am in balance the moment I release the clutch lever. I am as smooth out of the jet hole is peak-peak-Balance from the one suck = 360°

Con:
No matter how you look at it, she is not at peak ballance the moment you move. Your bike... Takes balls no matter how you look at it. And if you think I'm going to sit my balls on that seat having the ballance... I think I am in balance, not ballance. JMO
 

Sven

Well-Known Member
When that semi pounds the pavement, the few balls on the surface, fly in the air and bang back into the other balls. Between the chips spiking, the balls rolling with the stop and go, they are decomposing into powder. If those rings for the semi do not have a door to wash the crap out and re-ball, you are stuck with buying a new ring? What a racket!

Take a paper cup; find the crease. That is your tire stem. Roll the cup; watch the mark come around. Did it make a non-connecting hoop? Like a U on your table, you make a make to see where the stem lands.

Those are your steps. If you took a shot of that tire, you'd see those phantom steps not as pronounced, but it is 'worn down' none the less.
 

CHOPPED

KIFFMC
Many people use this technology in their motorcycle tires to balance them. I did a lot of research on them before trying them on mine. No problems at all.
 

erldawg

Guru
OK, I did something yesterday. I had a new tire put on the Dog. Instead of wheel wieghts. They ballance the tires with temp weights to find out how much weight is needed. Say your tire needs 4 ounces of weight to ballence it. Then they pop the tire bead and drop into the tire 4 ounces of 1/2 ounce ballancing balls. They just roll around inside your tire. When you get rolling centrifical force throws the balls to the unballenced areas of the tire until the tire becomes completely ballanced out at about 15 mph. Here is litature on the system for any vehicle from cars, trucks, jeeps up to 18 wheeler semi's. It fits between the break drum and the rim.
Same as Dyna Beads that Mad Dog has on ValueTeck website. Alot of guys on here use them.
 

08mastiff

Active Member
I love my dyna beads. Put them in again when I just changed out my rear tire last month. I'm a believer.
 

Mad Dog

ValueTeck Enterprises
Yup, guys on this forum have been balancing with them for years. I have them in everything I own. HD, car and boat trailer.:2thumbs:
I have them listed at this link for a discounted price.
The ValueTeck Value Page
 

PA Chopper

Active Member
I have Dyna Beads in my tires too. Haven't had to replace them yet. I'm just wondering what a shop will say when the old tire comes off with all the beads in there and they roll all over their floor.
Sven...you make my head hurt.
 
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chaingunner

Guest
I have Dyna Beads in my tires too. Haven't had to replace them yet. I'm just wondering what a shop will say when the old tire comes off with all the beads in there and they roll all over their floor.
Sven...you make my head hurt.

+1

wow, a lot of wasted effort there!!!!!!:spank:
 

Germanbiker

Active Member
I used these ones:

Counteract Balancing Beads - Balancing the wheels of transportation, Improve fuel economy, Increase tire life, Reduce vibration, Reduce maintenance, Balance from truck to trailer, Trouble free and guaranteed, Environmentally friendly, North America,

Simply as my tire shop could not balance my rear wheel as it was too wide for their machine:down:. Could not get Dyna Beads here in Germany but the ones of counteract.

Should work the same - but failed :down: :down: :down: .

On my rigid Pitbull I still have a bad vibration.

Will have to get these shit ball out of my tire and get it balanced anywhere at a good shop.

Jochen
 
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chaingunner

Guest
I used these ones:

Counteract Balancing Beads - Balancing the wheels of transportation, Improve fuel economy, Increase tire life, Reduce vibration, Reduce maintenance, Balance from truck to trailer, Trouble free and guaranteed, Environmentally friendly, North America,

Simply as my tire shop could not balance my rear wheel as it was too wide for their machine:down:. Could not get Dyna Beads here in Germany but the ones of counteract.

Should work the same - but failed :down: :down: :down: .

On my rigid Pitbull I still have a bad vibration.

Will have to get these shit ball out of my tire and get it balanced anywhere at a good shop.

Jochen

Why can't you get the Dyna beads there?
 

BigDogBro1

Made in the USA
Is Sven out of balance?

The Bros have been using Dyna Beads for years with different tire brands and they seem to work fine...10 to 110MPH and smooth as silk.

Have noticed that after running the life of the tire that some of the beads have pulverized into powder and small pieces but never affected the tire balance.
 

alxdamon

Member
Had my new rear tire mounted Tuesday, came home and added the Dyna Beads I got from Mad Dog. Second tire I've used them in and love them. Bike rides smoother than with stick on weights, cleaner look too.
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
Had my new rear tire mounted Tuesday, came home and added the Dyna Beads I got from Mad Dog. Second tire I've used them in and love them. Bike rides smoother than with stick on weights, cleaner look too.
:2thumbs: Absolutely correct!!
 

BadBrad

2005 Pitbull
I've said it before but I'll say it again. To know Sven is to understand him, and I don't know Sven. Every post I've read of his has a 50/50 chance of being right or wrong. I use Dyna Beads in mine and Rocky's bikes. So far, so good. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. But, in regards to what Jonathan mentioned, it is the size of my tire that determines how many ounces of beads that are used. They didn't balance it with temp weights, remove the weights, then add that same weight amount of beads. Of course we're talking about the difference between bikes and cars (wouldn't think it would make any difference) and also 2 similar, but different products.
 
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stlmikie

I wish I had more money.
Here's a question for the pros. If these little tiny ass beads work why couldn't you just take the same amount of weight in sand and put it in the tire? Same principle right? But cheaper!
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
according to the webb site, Dyna beads are High density perfectly smooth balls. Sand is silica which if you look under magnification looks like a cockabur
 
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