amsoil in primary , yes or no

[scubaman15]

I used this too and it's worked well so far

So you tried this Ray?? yea so far I love it I have about 750 miles on the switch over and clutch has NEVER been better "STOCK"... I plan to pull the primary at 2000 miles on the fluid and inspect everything as long as I have no problems till that point....This fluid is designed for WET CLUTCHES auto trans.. High performance no brainier IMHO
.. I'm sure you will rack up the miles ...keep us updated ...I love how the clutch hooks now and also how the clutch does not jerk when first placing in gear.

If any of you have followed my posts on the clutch on this bike ..you will note that it really never worked well from day one .. "to my standards " during the ride to DC last month I was in Heavy traffic and even with the added heat it worked very well... admittedly I did shut the bike down sometimes at the long lights..but it was so hot that day!!! Just makes sense to me to use a lighter fluid to carry away the small particles of clutch that will come off the facings and to allow the disks to contact one another ?? :up: Anybody else tried this? Ray your running the Bandit correct?

 

[K9Anniv]

Lotta info here...
I do want to switch to Amsoil, so tell me again the BEST Amsoil products for the 117" engine, closed (stock) primary and 6-speed Baker tranny in upper Midwest climate...
Thanks!

 

[CCRainman]

I use Amsoil 20-50 in the motor and primary. The tranny gets Redline Heavy Shock

 

[phatchopper300]

Severe gear oil in the primary ? ... Your wet clutch might have a hard time with that? But on the plus side your chain and bearings will love it!! Some other members run that combo also let us know how it works out!

I agree. The severe gear is to thick for the primary I would think? Just my .02

 

[Raywood]

So you tried this Ray?? yea so far I love it I have about 750 miles on the switch over and clutch has NEVER been better "STOCK"... I plan to pull the primary at 2000 miles on the fluid and inspect everything as long as I have no problems till that point....This fluid is designed for WET CLUTCHES auto trans.. High performance no brainier IMHO
.. I'm sure you will rack up the miles ...keep us updated ...I love how the clutch hooks now and also how the clutch does not jerk when first placing in gear.

If any of you have followed my posts on the clutch on this bike ..you will note that it really never worked well from day one .. "to my standards " during the ride to DC last month I was in Heavy traffic and even with the added heat it worked very well... admittedly I did shut the bike down sometimes at the long lights..but it was so hot that day!!! Just makes sense to me to use a lighter fluid to carry away the small particles of clutch that will come off the facings and to allow the disks to contact one another ?? :up: Anybody else tried this? Ray your running the Bandit correct?

Yeah, I switched over when you first posted this earlier in the year. I've probably got about 5000 miles on it so far and it's worked great. No issues here.
Yes, I have the Bandit

 

[KaptinAmerika]

The guys at Bandit tell you on there web site that you should use ATF if you can keep it in the primary.
From the horses mouth

WET: We recommend Kevlar as your first choice in a wet application - Kevlar is very durable and consistent, and requires slightly less spring pressure than the red Alto for a given horsepower output. The red Alto is also very durable and consistent, but requires slightly more spring pressure for a given horsepower output. The main advantage with red Alto plates is that they are extremely free releasing under all conditions and normally tolerant of a variety of lubricants. An additional advantage is that Alto has a lifetime guarantee on their plates.

NOTE: We recommend the use of ONLY automatic transmission fluid or Golden Spectro Gear SAE 80 Primary Chaincase Lubricant in our clutches. DO NOT use the HD oil or similar oils in the primary, especially with Kevlar plates. Using the HD oil will make the clutch drag and slip. ATF is inexpensive and works great, but can be difficult to prevent leakage in some bikes where the engine to primary case seal is not perfect. Golden Spectro 80 contains friction modifiers which actually increase the friction between the plates and allows the clutch to carry more power with the same spring pressure but is slightly higher viscosity than the ATF and can aggravate clutch drag in a bike with limited release travel. DO NOT use a full synthetic oil, these are often too “slippery” and will make the clutch slip.
Bandit Machine Works: Clutches and Belt Drives and Related Parts, Tools, and Accessories for Harley Davidson Motorcycles

 

[KaptinAmerika]

After all my other problems I now fear that these guys that just put my new motor in did not torque the Clutch hub nut correctly. After about 200 miles the clutch engagement started going little by little until I had no clutch. As many of you know I have a hydraulic clutch so I went through the tubing and fittings and bled it but found no issues. So I am pulling the primay cover in the AM and checking the nut. They also put a heavy oil in the primary which I think is lending to the problem ao I am going to clean it out, clean off all the clutch plates and install the B&M trick shift.

 

[scubaman15]

After all my other problems I now fear that these guys that just put my new motor in did not torque the Clutch hub nut correctly. After about 200 miles the clutch engagement started going little by little until I had no clutch. As many of you know I have a hydraulic clutch so I went through the tubing and fittings and bled it but found no issues. So I am pulling the primay cover in the AM and checking the nut. They also put a heavy oil in the primary which I think is lending to the problem ao I am going to clean it out, clean off all the clutch plates and install the B&M trick shift.

I think you will like it ... This reinforces what I already know "NOTE: We recommend the use of ONLY automatic transmission fluid or Golden Spectro Gear SAE 80 Primary Chaincase Lubricant in our clutches. DO NOT use the HD oil or similar oils in the primary, especially with Kevlar plates. Using the HD oil will make the clutch drag and slip. ATF is inexpensive and works great, but can be difficult to prevent leakage in some bikes where the engine to primary case seal is not perfect. Golden Spectro 80 contains friction modifiers which actually increase the friction between the plates and allows the clutch to carry more power with the same spring pressure but is slightly higher viscosity than the ATF and can aggravate clutch drag in a bike with limited release travel. DO NOT use a full synthetic oil, these are often too “slippery” and will make the clutch slip.
Bandit Machine Works: Clutches and Belt Drives and Related Parts, Tools, and Accessories for Harley Davidson Motorcycles

 

[ClutchDoctor]

An update on that - We also recommend Bel-Ray GearSaver in the primary if you can't easily get the Golden Spectro, either 75 or 80 weight. The 75 is about an SAE10, the 80 is about an SAE15, as is the Golden Spectro 80. ATF fluid will work fine in the clutch, but your chain will last longer with the oil, like Bel-Ray or Spectro. In a pinch, plain old SAE10 motor oil (non-synthetic) will get you home, until you can find the right stuff. Avoid full synthetic oils, they are too slippery for use in a clutch.

John Magee
Bandit Machine Works