partycrasher
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i have been informed that aftermarket exhausts are now available for the wolf....
2009 wolf
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chaingunner
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Its nice, but not me either.I am definately in the minority here, and I agree that the fit and finish look great...
I don't like the looks at all :down:, even though I do like the new Pitbulls :2thumbs:...
K9Anniv
Well-Known Member
I think a 240mm would have looked better on the Wolf, balancing out the rear end more. But you gotta give Big Dog credit..they don't do anything "half-assed" and don't throw products into the market without lots of trial and deliberation. Maybe they'll set the trend for smaller rear tires now. To each, his own...but as for me, I'm not over the "fat tire" phase yet :lol:
XTREEME
Active Member
I would. If I was following behind that bike, where all you really see is the rear tire profile, I would not have as much respect for it as I would following a 300+.
Say what you want, it makes a big difference.
Reaper
Well-Known Member
Well, hope you don't meet me, because I will hurt your feelings then. "Hey too bad the tire is so small" is exactly what I would say.:lol:
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partycrasher
New Member
big tire bike's .....yah they were fun for a while.....seems like the taller/narrower tire is now where many builders are going.....I will say that the wolf handles GREAT----and the xwedge is not a 'jap" motor and does sound very good. With some aftermarket pipes it will wake the bike up and really be a strong contender.
Marco Polo
Newbie DELUXE
I just noticed this thread... Interesting remarks.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Compensate much? But yes, it does make a difference, you can't ride a 300+ like you can my Wolf.
As far as the X-Wedge being just a plugged up EPA compliant motor here are a couple of articles on it that help to better explain why it has so much less vibration, is more reliable, has less engine noise, and can be built larger with less heat issues. I think one of these also talks about some of the racing technology derived from all over that is incorporated in the X-Wedge to give it better performance. And yes, they do perform quite differently once you get some miles on them.
Motorcycle USA.com
Cycle World
If the Wolf you test rode was brand new it not only had the one limiter still active but the lower rpm ones as well. The break in rev limiters for these works differently also and has different levels of limiting (it misses more and more as you push it as opposed to just cutting all fuel) so you could have been hitting the first part and not even felt it.
To answer the other question, the X-Wedge is 56.25 degrees and the 121" that BDM uses for the Wolf is square (4.25" bore and stroke). It should do better then the estimated 110 ft/lbs of torque someone was guessing easily. I have read where the smaller version has dyno'd at over 120 hp and torque and Kneeslider.com said "Power so far, without any real effort is 135 horsepower at the crank, in emissions legal form." I still haven't dyno'd mine since it's hard to find someone I trust that also has the extension to handle a 9 1/2 foot bike.
As for the exhaust, Vance and Hines makes the Big Radius which I believe was in one of the pictures posted earlier. Unfortunately that's the only one I'm aware of still. Hopefully in the near future these will finally start to catch on more and more and things like custom cam covers, etc will be widely available. The main problem though is people don't read up on what an X-Wedge motor is and just assume it was just designed to meet current and upcoming EPA standards. S&S didn't need a new motor to do that, they already have several.
In regards to handling and comfort it's most fair to compare it to a Big Bear Chopper Paradox (also a 9 1/2 foot long prostreet). For something so stretched with 45 degrees of rake it turns remarkably well with a little getting used to. The seat is comfy for as small and thin as it is but it doesn't offer great back support for long rides as you might expect. It is definitely low as is the center of gravity which makes for easy handling again and surprising maneuverability for such a large bike. Granted I didn't have as much time on the Paradox obviously but it seemed unweilding and clumsy at low speed.
The Wolf's 220 rear seems to be sufficient for jumping off the line while still giving better handling in the twisties. I realize preferances vary and some do a lot more taking pictures at Hooters then in the mountains but I didn't just buy the Wolf because of looks. For those that ride straight lines on flat land, the Wolf may not be "respectable" enough for you. :lol: My bigger concern about the 20" 220 is that it's an oddball size with no selection to choose from for replacements.
And that's my take on the new Wolf...
This ones my favorite.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Compensate much? But yes, it does make a difference, you can't ride a 300+ like you can my Wolf.As far as the X-Wedge being just a plugged up EPA compliant motor here are a couple of articles on it that help to better explain why it has so much less vibration, is more reliable, has less engine noise, and can be built larger with less heat issues. I think one of these also talks about some of the racing technology derived from all over that is incorporated in the X-Wedge to give it better performance. And yes, they do perform quite differently once you get some miles on them.
Motorcycle USA.com
Cycle World
If the Wolf you test rode was brand new it not only had the one limiter still active but the lower rpm ones as well. The break in rev limiters for these works differently also and has different levels of limiting (it misses more and more as you push it as opposed to just cutting all fuel) so you could have been hitting the first part and not even felt it.
To answer the other question, the X-Wedge is 56.25 degrees and the 121" that BDM uses for the Wolf is square (4.25" bore and stroke). It should do better then the estimated 110 ft/lbs of torque someone was guessing easily. I have read where the smaller version has dyno'd at over 120 hp and torque and Kneeslider.com said "Power so far, without any real effort is 135 horsepower at the crank, in emissions legal form." I still haven't dyno'd mine since it's hard to find someone I trust that also has the extension to handle a 9 1/2 foot bike.
As for the exhaust, Vance and Hines makes the Big Radius which I believe was in one of the pictures posted earlier. Unfortunately that's the only one I'm aware of still. Hopefully in the near future these will finally start to catch on more and more and things like custom cam covers, etc will be widely available. The main problem though is people don't read up on what an X-Wedge motor is and just assume it was just designed to meet current and upcoming EPA standards. S&S didn't need a new motor to do that, they already have several.
In regards to handling and comfort it's most fair to compare it to a Big Bear Chopper Paradox (also a 9 1/2 foot long prostreet). For something so stretched with 45 degrees of rake it turns remarkably well with a little getting used to. The seat is comfy for as small and thin as it is but it doesn't offer great back support for long rides as you might expect. It is definitely low as is the center of gravity which makes for easy handling again and surprising maneuverability for such a large bike. Granted I didn't have as much time on the Paradox obviously but it seemed unweilding and clumsy at low speed.
The Wolf's 220 rear seems to be sufficient for jumping off the line while still giving better handling in the twisties. I realize preferances vary and some do a lot more taking pictures at Hooters then in the mountains but I didn't just buy the Wolf because of looks. For those that ride straight lines on flat land, the Wolf may not be "respectable" enough for you. :lol: My bigger concern about the 20" 220 is that it's an oddball size with no selection to choose from for replacements.
And that's my take on the new Wolf...
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ALDog
Active Member
I think some people severely under estimate the handling of the bikes with the 300 and 330 rear tires. I'm not there yet just because I don't have much seat time on my bike yet but I've seen pictures of Hoat on his K-9 letting it ripin the twisties. Granted they take some getting used to but they can hold their own with the narrower tires... I rode a V Rod with a 240 on the back and my Ridgeback is not quite as nimble as the V Rod but if you are looking to eat the twisties, buy a Ducati. :up:
fmschatz
Bullfighter
Have over 5000 miles on my new wolf. Really love it in the corners, it handles far better than my 07 K-9. I had the first set of V & H pipes installed and it gives more power and awsome sound. Faster than the K-9 with V & H pipesw an a 600 cam. One of the reasons I received from Chris at the factory was that anything larger than the 220 tire would make the rear look too fat when the hard bags are installed. Also the 220 tire makes it more nimble that a larger tire. The hard bags are to be ready in August.
Im with most of your guys here on the back tire issue. If it had a 330 I would go down to my dealer and trade in my 08 pitbull immediatly. I guess I bought a BD because I love the fat tire, but beauty is in the eye of the beer holder. I will say that I have heard the wolf run with the VH aftermarket pipes and it sounds great.
1extremeskier
Member
One thing with the wolf that got me was the riding position. i am 6 3 and it seemed to low and bars were way to low. Of course used to my K9, so ???
Clean lines and great motor, making more power. To each his own, enjoy
Clean lines and great motor, making more power. To each his own, enjoy
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ALDog
Active Member
I would bet on the Ducati 1098 against most anything in the twisties. They are so light and nimble and they dominate the superbike world...
GSXR's are awesome though, my brother had one and it was sweet.
I just out cornered a Ninja 900 yesterday up a mountain pass. I disagree....I want my bike to handle and look good. The wolf should have a 250 but I still like the bike a lot. I do like the bagger more.