05 Mastiff can't get an adjustment on my clutch,

O Repo

New Member
Lever adjust but clutch doesn't dissengage. Bike is pulling the whole time . With lever in and I rev it it doesn't pull as bad any ideas
 

Sven

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Possible is one steel plate that drags the whole pack. Have to remove the plates and stack the steels to see a gap of one steel dragging things up.

Remember, flat or cut side faces the pressure plate on assembly.

Remember, there is a specific stack of all plates for making the springs or wave plate to create spring tension or the wave plate shows a flat... sans, a loose output shaft nut being loose as knot explained.
 

O Repo

New Member
Possible is one steel plate that drags the whole pack. Have to remove the plates and stack the steels to see a gap of one steel dragging things up.

Remember, flat or cut side faces the pressure plate on assembly.

Remember, there is a specific stack of all plates for making the springs or wave plate to create spring tension or the wave plate shows a flat... sans, a loose output shaft nut being loose as knot explained.
Possible is one steel plate that drags the whole pack. Have to remove the plates and stack the steels to see a gap of one steel dragging things up.

Remember, flat or cut side faces the pressure plate on assembly.

Remember, there is a specific stack of all plates for making the springs or wave plate to create spring tension or the wave plate shows a flat... sans, a loose output shaft nut being loose as knot explained.
Much appreciated Sven will heed all the knowledge you shared with me. Thanks for helping me.will let you know how it goes Peace Brother
 

O Repo

New Member
Clutch hub nut is lossening up...red loctite and 80 foot pounds...there is people going to say 150 foot pounds but dont do it...110 at the very most...that is a harden hollow shaft
Ty Knothead I was thinking more like an arm on the fork maybe but no noise hope you're right Brother Thank you very much will let you know peace
Knothead i don't have a service manual and I'm not sure about where the nut you're talking about is located. First when I pulled primary cover it had groves in the cover from the pressure plate bolts. I got the clutch discs out, the friction plates had about the thickness of 2 pieces of notebook paper. The large nut in the center was half way off at the same time it was tight I couldn't get it to tighten any.. I wanted to check with you before I went any deeper. I have just a couple questions . From which side will I access the clutch hub nut i figure the right side not the primary side . I have the actuator cover off and the large 1 7/8 nut off. I didn't want to start pulling things off that didn't need to come off. If you can help me out I do appreciate it. If not I understand. Peace
 

knothead

Second Chance Customs
The nut your talking about being half way off is the one I'm talking about...that is the clutch hub nut is what hold the clutch basket on and it is left handed threads...you need to take it all apart and inspect it all...

Some one can point you to the manuals that is here on the forum
 
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Mikeinjersey

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Knothead i don't have a service manual and I'm not sure about where the nut you're talking about is located. First when I pulled primary cover it had groves in the cover from the pressure plate bolts. I got the clutch discs out, the friction plates had about the thickness of 2 pieces of notebook paper. The large nut in the center was half way off at the same time it was tight I couldn't get it to tighten any.. I wanted to check with you before I went any deeper. I have just a couple questions . From which side will I access the clutch hub nut i figure the right side not the primary side . I have the actuator cover off and the large 1 7/8 nut off. I didn't want to start pulling things off that didn't need to come off. If you can help me out I do appreciate it. If not I understand. Peace
Clutch assembly Index #23
 

O Repo

New Member
Nothing obvious on inspection bearings everything appears to be seating right . Basket is in fine shape no grooves , metal discs are flat no warped or damaged disc. Friction disc are fine it never slipped it wouldn't dissengage completely..
is it possible the 4 pressure plate bolts worked there way loose? Without the hub nut loosening ? The hub nut appeared to be loose when I first looked at it there were 2-3;threads showing but it was tight with well over 80ft lbs. I'm going to reassemble make sure everything is torqued hopefully it was something unseen and is corrected if not we may just have a big dog bon fire I've put so much time and money into this bike only to find another problem just around the corner. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you for all your in put . Peace
 

Mickmorris

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Nothing obvious on inspection bearings everything appears to be seating right . Basket is in fine shape no grooves , metal discs are flat no warped or damaged disc. Friction disc are fine it never slipped it wouldn't dissengage completely..
is it possible the 4 pressure plate bolts worked there way loose? Without the hub nut loosening ? The hub nut appeared to be loose when I first looked at it there were 2-3;threads showing but it was tight with well over 80ft lbs. I'm going to reassemble make sure everything is torqued hopefully it was something unseen and is corrected if not we may just have a big dog bon fire I've put so much time and money into this bike only to find another problem just around the corner. Keeping my fingers crossed. Thank you for all your in put . Peace
Well if everything looked ok & was tightened when you opened it up your problem has to be in the cable and clutch pushrod adjustment right?
 

O Repo

New Member
When I pulled it down the clutch hub nut was torqued but it had a couple threads exposed like it wasn't tight. And behind the nut was a washer that was 1/4 - 3 /16 thick I wasn't sure if that was correct washer. The clutch bolts were out far enough that the head of the bolts wore a groove in my primary cover over a quarter inch deep And I went n spoke with a local HD mechanic and when I ask him about the washer he said there shouldn't be a washer he pulled one out of his drawer that was a nut and sleeve all in one piece and he said he had never seen one with a washer .
So I clean and put it back together just
 

O Repo

New Member
And when I go to adjust the clutch I squeeze the lever, it squeezes 1/4 of the way and acts like the cable broke . I pull the cable off where it hooks to the tranny I pull the gismo with the 3 ball bearings it don't appear bad but I have no pressure on my clutch lever any ideas
 

Mikeinjersey

Well-Known Member
And when I go to adjust the clutch I squeeze the lever, it squeezes 1/4 of the way and acts like the cable broke . I pull the cable off where it hooks to the tranny I pull the gismo with the 3 ball bearings it don't appear bad but I have no pressure on my clutch lever any ideas
Look at these pages for the clutch and primary drive. This info is for a RSD.


Your explanations were a little hard for me to follow. I'm taking a guess here but it's possible the Ramps #50 and #52 were not in the correct position when you adjusted the cable. You referred to the ball and ramp system as " the Gismo" in your post. The Gismo is what gives the throw to the push rod. The cable pulls the ball and ramps which in turn pushes the pushrod # 44 into the throw-out bearing #12 which releases the clutch plates. The adjusting nut is # 10.
Give the adjustment another try first . If you still can't get enough motion to release the clutch pull the Gismo apart and inspect it and make sure you replace it giving yourself as much throw as possible. If you go back in be sure to remove and grease the pushrod along with the Ramp mechanism.
 

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