Do Dogs Get Hot and Die??

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JWScarab

JWScarab

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So today I go out for a cruise. Come to an intersection a HUNDREDS of bikes turning, so I ask the guy that has the intersection blocked - Can I join you? "Sure"!!

Off I go, happy as a dog with no fleas, and we run down back roads etc. then thru this urban area, slow, real low speeds, then thru a subdivision to a park. Next stop - BAM. Dead dog. I start it back up, go to next stop - dies again. I feel a lot of heat under my right leg. I start it and give it a little throttle and it runs great till I let off throttle to idle and it dies! I think it was hot.

It is hot today, about 90*. So I break away from the pack and stray to the local watering hole. Dog is resting for 45 minutes. Once I get back on it, no issues. I cruise home, 60mph, get home, no issues!

Soooo. 3 things changed since my last ride.

1) I just rode in hot weather stop and go - a new for me and the dog (I just got it).

2) I just changed the plugs. Put in brand new Champion RN12YC's at 0.040". The old plugs I pulled out were NGK BPR5ES.

3) Just changed my oil and used Mobile 1 20W50 and K&N 170C filter. Oil is still full (3 qts - 1.5" below tank neck).

Questions:

Is it normal behavior for a dog get hot and die?? Why would this be??

Should I invest in an oil temp gauge or is this a gimmick accessory?? I like simple, but I like meaningful data more!!

Are other plugs going to be better than the Champions recommended buy the service manual?

Any thoughts from you experts greatly appreciated!!
 
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Brew

Brew

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You may have been vapor locking is my guess, from stop and go's. Also your cam sensor could be causing this, I believe we've had several members that have had this sensor act up with heat...
 
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Mr. Wright

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X2 on that. Remove your gas cap, and look at the bottom or it. If it still has the white or lite grey hex looking plug in it, unscrew it out, and throw it away. If it is already gone the under side will be hollow and you will see a bolt head. If it does it again loosen the gas cap, and see if that helps. If none of the above works, it's probably a weak cam sensor.
 
BBChopper

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Brew said:
You may have been vapor locking is my guess, from stop and go's. Also your cam sensor could be causing this, I believe we've had several members that have had this sensor act up with heat...
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Also I would put NGK's back in! Next time it happens loosen the gas cap listen for air and see if it starts right up if it does it's the cap!
 
racedaze98

racedaze98

Member
Do as these guys say, but my cam sensor was one of them that went out recently. It started showing sign of failure by stalling at stop lights then it went out completely.
 
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ChoppaNoob

Active Member
Where you puffing smoke out of the pipes before it died and losing power ? That's the signal that my bikes gave when getting too hot.
 
JWScarab

JWScarab

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Damn you guys are good. So I forgot to mention item number 4 that I did to the dog since my last ride. I took off my custom gas cap and replaced it with a new flat BDM cap I bought here on the forum!

Well, after reading the posts I head out to the garage. After 2 hours of the bike sitting, I remove the cap and it STILL had a vacuum to the tank - sucked in the air as I removed it. Guess that fixed that problem!!

I removed the white plastic nut thing. Took out the retaining ring, took out all the insides, then put the hollow white nut back on. Not sure why but I just wanted to put it back on - but now the air goes right thru the big hole in the bottom of the white nut cause the insides are gone. I can easily suck air thru the assembled cap now.

Should be good to go!!

THANK YOU ALL. :2thumbs:

ChoppaNoob said:
Where you puffing smoke out of the pipes before it died and losing power ? That's the signal that my bikes gave when getting too hot.
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No power loss or smoke - just stalling. I think it should be good to go! I wish everything was this EZ
 
JR03CHOPPER

JR03CHOPPER

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Careful with that big hollow white thing when you fill your tank. It can aslo act like a funnel for gas to blow out of the cap and all over your paint.
 
JWScarab

JWScarab

Active Member
JR03CHOPPER said:
Careful with that big hollow white thing when you fill your tank. It can aslo act like a funnel for gas to blow out of the cap and all over your paint.
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Hey JR, so are you saying its better to just throw the whole white part away as advised above??

I guess I was thinking if I left it in, it would be harder for the gas to splash thru the hole, then thru the vent holes.

But you guys have the experience - should it get tossed out completely? :confused:

Thanks!!
 
JR03CHOPPER

JR03CHOPPER

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I had the gas do that. I think the air release actually helped it come out through the breather hole you mentioned. Like a syphon. Didn't stop until the fuel was below the hexagon white piece. Once I removed it...no more vapor lock and no gas puking out on my paint.
 
BWG56

BWG56

Guru
Mr. Wright said:
X2 on that. Remove your gas cap, and look at the bottom or it. If it still has the white or lite grey hex looking plug in it, unscrew it out, and throw it away. If it is already gone the under side will be hollow and you will see a bolt head. If it does it again loosen the gas cap, and see if that helps. .
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I had the same problem 4-5 years ago with the cap, but I just purchased one 2 weeks ago and I've been riding and I have not had any problems and the check valve is still in it. With the old cap without it, I was getting vapors coming out of the cap and I think that was the cause of the paint lifting around the paint savor.
 
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