going back to the shop AGAIN tomorrow (3rd in 500 miles)

Energy One
Of The 4 06 K9s Having DYing Issues That I Know About, Mine Being One Of TheM, ALl Were Related To The Ignition Switch And All Were Solved With A NeW Ignition Switch
Unplug The Switch Short The Leads And Ride The Bike
If It Dies Again Then You Know It Isn't The Ignition Switch
 

bigdogtech01

Well-Known Member
So you know, I wasn't trying to be a dick here (although it may have sounded like it), just trying to help you get your head right and your bike fixed!!

:cheers:

Dennis

PS Wasn't kidding about flying Andrew to your house... :roll:
Lol, hell yeah!! I'm up for it :2thumbs:...only problem is, I might not want to come back home...hum...maybe that's not a problem :D
On another note, do as Kaptain stated with ignition switch and go from there.
:cheers:
 
1 mistake I read in your post is you told them you had XX amount to spend. Remember a business is just that. There are a lot of honest people to put their reputation on the line but would still be careful putting that out. If I take it somewhere I usually ask them to trouble shoot it first before doing any work and give me an estimate if it sounds like BS I will pick it up and pay XXX amount for the trouble shoot. try doing some of the work yourself worst thing that can happen is you fuck your bike up but at least its you fucking it up and not someone else. when I first picked up my bike I messed that thing up more than once and had some real good advice and help from the forumn. Didn't know shit about the bike, last year I completely stripped my bike down to the pistons and rebuilt it. you can do most of the work with some patience and research "service Manual" I refuse to piss away my money for someone to fuck up my bike. That's my job... Hang in there good luck.. listen to the guys who are helping you on here they "most of them" know their shit....
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
My key switch on my 03 messed up, so why it was at Strokers 3 yrs ago I had a new key switch put in. About a month later I was riding and when I got to where I was going I reached down to kill the bike and remove the key and .....OH shit!!!! the bike was running but the key was gone. I only had my BDM key and my break caliber lock key on the ring. SO I road back home and got my extra one. I then put the key in and turned the bike off. Now I put the key in turn the bike on and then remove the key and put it in my pocket and then crank the bike. Watch for this problem also.
 

01Mastiff

Active Member
OK, said it before and I'll say it again. Mine did the same thing. 80mph on the highway and would die, turn on the turn signal it would die. 2 out of every 3 times I took it down I would have to haul it back. Was so much trouble I bought a truck and trailer to haul that piece of shit around. Had fun doing this for 2 years. REWIRED and have not had one problem in the last 10 years...NOT ONE. EHC's were not designed for bikes. Vibration can really play hell with them. The folks who assembled BD's (at least the wireing portion) must have been high most of the time. Duing the rewire found 2 grounds and a couple of other connections where the wire was pushed in and never crimped. The same folks who made camp stoves the week before (BD owned by Coleman if you recall) were now making bikes.....apparently with no additional training. Save your mind and lots of money and have the EHC eliminated and rewire from one end to the other and never look back! If you wanna go WP check posts. Seem to be some glitches but some folks like them. Anything is better than stock wireing. Ramdomly look through posts here. 99% are electronic related an wireing doesn't break down like mechanical parts. If it is wired right once, it will stay that way for a good 50 years or so.
 

robber98

Member
Mine was dying randomly also. No power at all and would start right back up after turning the key off and back on. Replaced the ignition switch with the ford tractor switch as mentioned elsewhere in the forum and have had not one problem since!
 

bigdogtech01

Well-Known Member
OK, said it before and I'll say it again. Mine did the same thing. 80mph on the highway and would die, turn on the turn signal it would die. 2 out of every 3 times I took it down I would have to haul it back. Was so much trouble I bought a truck and trailer to haul that piece of shit around. Had fun doing this for 2 years. REWIRED and have not had one problem in the last 10 years...NOT ONE. EHC's were not designed for bikes. Vibration can really play hell with them. The folks who assembled BD's (at least the wireing portion) must have been high most of the time. Duing the rewire found 2 grounds and a couple of other connections where the wire was pushed in and never crimped. The same folks who made camp stoves the week before (BD owned by Coleman if you recall) were now making bikes.....apparently with no additional training. Save your mind and lots of money and have the EHC eliminated and rewire from one end to the other and never look back! If you wanna go WP check posts. Seem to be some glitches but some folks like them. Anything is better than stock wireing. Ramdomly look through posts here. 99% are electronic related an wireing doesn't break down like mechanical parts. If it is wired right once, it will stay that way for a good 50 years or so.
Sheldon Coleman is related to the Coleman lantern company yes...But, the companies are not the same. Sheldon was not the founder of Colman lantern and was not building camping supplies before he got into the bikes.
I will agree with you that some of the people working on them should not have been...but that goes with any manufacturer...you ever see how many recalls are in the automotive industry? Or how about them engineers who built the bridge that just recently collapsed over a river in Washington state? Everyone makes mistakes, it's human nature...I'm sure if Big dog was still producing bikes, they would have come up with a better electrical system...well, at least you would hope so :lol:
 
You're so hateful for having a big dog for so many years! I mean don't get me wrong, clearly I've had my fair share of problems with my bike, but one confident mile on my bike erases all the frustration i've had over the time i've owned it. Almost...no, all my frustrations have existed within the wiring of this bike, so in that regard I agree with you, but I dont think I would say I ride a piece of shit either...although for a while I sincerely considered buying an enclosed trailer because it was so much more reliable to strap it down and haul it. I would really consider having somebody rewire my bike completely though, thats for sure.
 

dingo

First 50
Don't fool yourselves. We're drivng camp stoves. Sheldon Coleman Jr. was the chairman of Coleman Camping Company, having taken the position over from his father and was Chairman of the Board of Coleman Camping Company when he started Big Dog. The Coleman Company, Inc.: Information from Answers.com
Not true - you are misreading the link you provided.

Sheldon Coleman Jr. left Coleman Company in 1989 after his failed bid - see No Room For Family At Coleman - Chicago Tribune.

He later started Big Dog in 1994 - see Big Dog Motorcycles - About Us.
 
It was a simple 12 dollar fix, and I didn't even have to venture outside my family to get it fixed. my uncle chased down all the wiring. Loose wire in the ignition, loose wire in the kill switch, and the spark plugs were gapped way off...basically the shops didn't do anything whatsoever to look at wiring, just wanted to blame it on the EHC. I was elated to have it fixed, but pissed that I spent so much of my tax return fixing shit that wasn't broken, and another 600 bucks on gas.
 

Fibersnake

Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
It was a simple 12 dollar fix, and I didn't even have to venture outside my family to get it fixed. my uncle chased down all the wiring. Loose wire in the ignition, loose wire in the kill switch, and the spark plugs were gapped way off...basically the shops didn't do anything whatsoever to look at wiring, just wanted to blame it on the EHC. I was elated to have it fixed, but pissed that I spent so much of my tax return fixing shit that wasn't broken, and another 600 bucks on gas.
Great to hear and glad you are up in running. The issue with the EHC being blamed is more common than most would think. The EHC can and has had some problems and reading on here you would think everyone that was ever built had or will have will problems with such. I think there is many more out running with the EHC with no problems than ones that have-keeping in mind that even with the many member on here, we only represent a small part of the many owners that bought a BD that had EHC.

Is it the best system-NO. Will it fail maybe then maybe not, sort of like a women that has breast cancer in her family and maybe has a higher chance of getting such, do you do the Jolie or wait an see????

Personally I think the biggest issue with the EHC and many other problems with BD is that the shops and mechanics that worked on such do not know what they are doing, especially if it involves the electrical system. The EHC is sensitive for sure and could have been more robust, but that said how many have been fried due to like bad batteries, added accessories that were done crappy like Lizard Lights or other such stuff, or even stuff as simple as basic checks such as making sure the battery clamps are tight?

In full disclosure, I do not have my EHC anymore, I put a PDM on it. I did have 3 EHC, but none of them failed, the first was changed as part of an update by BD, the second I broke the pin for the oil pressure light and replaced it with new (but saved the old EHC), the third got shorted out due to a chaffed wire within the power harness (back in went the second and put another 10k or more on it). Finally when the PDM came out and BD had shut down, figure I would give it try and that was the only reason for the change.

The PDM so far has been holding up good for me and I have had no problems. I still have my second EHC (the one with the broken OP pin and the complete original harness). Irt may fail and if it does, will go old school for it. That said, never have I worried about making a trip on the BD and have made many and only once was broken down and that was when the power harness shorted out the battery and everything else at a Rolling Thunder a few years ago.

It part of the adventure with motorcycle and not limited to BD. Hell I have a 2009 Buell also that shortly after I got it new, there were issues of some having the rotor on the alternator go out. More and more were reporting same, HD/Buell even made a recall to come up with a band-aid fix (mine had it done), still I have never had the issue, nor do I think most have had. Nonetheless want to keep it, so Erik Buell Racing came up with a good fix and I decided to buy it for future, so in the garage sits $800 dollar alternator kit with new stator/rotor. What was the issue, simple as they drilled a hole in the rotor to allow more cooling oil to the stator.

Anyway off the soap box (I am bored here today in Dubai) and glad that you got it up and running and it was a simple and cheap fix. Buy the Uncle a cold one and keep his knowledge, skills and help around. Ride the BD and do not be afraid of it breaking down or getting wet, just for the long trip, allow more time for the unknown and if and when they pop up, year later you will be able to tell the story of broken down in the middle of American and the adventures that came with such.
 
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