If the cost was all the same, Wire Plus, PDM, or rewire the whole thing?

[powerwagon]

I am having ehc problems with my 04 chopper and I want to think you for your response and your reasoning or why you went the way you did it really helped me in my decision.
I personally like working on my own bike instead of paying someone to do so and I also like the controls and appearance of my bike, I mean that is why I bought it. So with that said I believe I have talked myself into the wireplus package if it will work with my bike.

 

[Five Five]

My vote is for the old school harley set up.... done them before on my panheads

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"five"

 

[Dozer1]

Ditched my EHC a few months ago for the Wires Plus, and so far so good. But it's still kind of a goofy setup. When it comes to wiring, I prefer the simpliest version possible because my experience has always been, therein lies reliability and dependabilty. So all things being equal, I'd probably opt to rewire the whole kitinkaboodle. But that's just me.

 

[Moespeeds]

Also keep in mind that you can sell your stock bars and controls for a pretty good chunk of change. I believe I got close to $400 for mine.

 

[Jwooky]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks you have to loose the stock controls. They are just switches. All you have to do is run them through a relay.

 

[BadBrad]

It makes you wonder why didn't BDM simplify the wiring to begin with? It's all about coolness and quality. You can have one or the other but everyone wants both. I know I do. I went with WP 3 years ago on mine and Rocky's dogs because that's what was available and I'm completely satisfied with both.

 

[DRBarnhart]

I'm not sure why everyone thinks you have to loose the stock controls. They are just switches. All you have to do is run them through a relay.

:iagree:
I've never been able to understand this either...

Dennis

 

[bdmridgeback]

:iagree:
I've never been able to understand this either...

Dennis

A bunch of relays is nothing but a problem waiting to happen and a wiring nightmare. I was going to do relays and momentary switches before wire-plus released the BDM kit and it was going to take a lighting control module and 4-5 relays minimum to do it.

 

[CHOPPED]

I'll be installing my WP in the next few weeks. I have never had a problem with my ECH, but don't want to find out the hard way that it is on the way out. I figured that I can sell it for some cash and offset the cost of the WP.

 

[Moespeeds]

I'm with Jake on the relays. If you're gonna do that, you may as well keep the EHC. The whole point of a complete rewire is to simplify the system and eliminate failure scenarios. Add 4 relays, and you just added 4 failure scenarios. I tell guys until I'm blue in the face, though for some reason they rarely listen. Take a really good, hard look at your electrical system, and if you can eliminate a switch, a wire, an idiot light, or any other non necessary function, DO IT. Especially if you plan to keep the bike long term, a simple harness will last forever and any idiot can trouble shoot and work on it. I would toss the BDM controls if you have the chance, they are another proprietary part that will be harder and harder to get as time goes on. Changing the bars to 1" is a cake job for anyone with a TIG or MIG welder. Can't find someone to do the welding? Go put a post up on weldingweb.com, someone will hook you up.

 

[rhino17]

I'm still running stock EHC, but if it ever craps out I'm going to look into the simple route. I'm on board with Moe - simpler is better. But I'm not one that needs bells and whistles on anything I own - just something else to break and keep me from riding.

 

[DRBarnhart]

A bunch of relays is nothing but a problem waiting to happen and a wiring nightmare....

I'm with Jake on the relays. If you're gonna do that, you may as well keep the EHC...

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, mine isn't same as either of yours.
We'll just have to agree to disagree.

Dennis

 

[Cruz Dog]

Forgive me for asking but how and what is different from residing a efi and a carb bike.?

 

[bdmridgeback]

Forgive me for asking but how and what is different from residing a efi and a carb bike.?

Nothing really...the EFI module is a stand alone unit that just gets turned on with the ignition switch to say it simply.

 

[Cruz Dog]

So if I was to do the rewire what would I need

 

[Jwooky]

I understand and appreciate all your comments.

Modern automotive relays are pretty bullet proof these days. Open the hood of any new car and ther are a dozen of them. Ever have to replace one?

Anyway, I just want to through out the option. Bad enough to have to go through thousands in wiring and modules, and then to have to replace contols bars etc to boot.

 

[PaulHart]

I understand and appreciate all your comments.

Modern automotive relays are pretty bullet proof these days. Open the hood of any new car and ther are a dozen of them. Ever have to replace one?

Anyway, I just want to through out the option. Bad enough to have to go through thousands in wiring and modules, and then to have to replace contols bars etc to boot.

I believe the idea behind losing the BDM controls comes from the right hand control board being almost impossible to find. It'd suck pretty bad to do a rewire then have a $100 control board leave you stranded.

 

[Moespeeds]

My first choice would be to eliminate all hand controls except the 2 turn signal switches.

 

[moog5050]

no horn?

 

[bdmridgeback]

I understand and appreciate all your comments.

Modern automotive relays are pretty bullet proof these days. Open the hood of any new car and ther are a dozen of them. Ever have to replace one?

Anyway, I just want to through out the option. Bad enough to have to go through thousands in wiring and modules, and then to have to replace contols bars etc to boot.

Modern cars dont have the vibration of a v-twin.
Vibration KILLS the contacts in the relays. Why do you think they were never used?

I water proofed my hand controls when my bike was new and the boards look like new and work like new after 7 years. Keep the water out and they will last damn near forever.