Clutch suggestions

prairiehorse

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Ok i have a pretty stock 117 in an 05 ridgeback. XXX TJ carb with dual wimmer.
Clutch started slipping BAD, so gonna have to change it out. Planning on some headwork... any suggestion on a good clutch that wont puke?
Been searching the threads... bandit?
Please let me know. Thanks
 
Bobby Schulz

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Bandit....Make sure you get the clutch basket too!!!! 05 dogs had problem with breaking the stock clutch basket.
Not that I would know anything about that ;)
 
Vince81

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Bandit Machine Works makes a fine replacement clutch for your Big Dog.....
But BAKER Makes one that was designed with a one piece clutch basket out of hardened stainless steel.
More Torque capacity & more clutch plates ( for less heat ,less drag and MORE torque coefficient).
I myself recommend the BAKER Clutch & basket assembly -but the Bandit is also a great unit:D
Vince
 
prairiehorse

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LOL...hmmm my basket looked very similar this summer! I replaced basket with a baker. Thanks for the info on clutches. I will check em out!
 
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Vince81 said:
Bandit Machine Works makes a fine replacement clutch for your Big Dog.....
But BAKER Makes one that was designed with a one piece clutch basket out of hardened stainless steel.
More Torque capacity & more clutch plates ( for less heat ,less drag and MORE torque coefficient).
I myself recommend the BAKER Clutch & basket assembly -but the Bandit is also a great unit:D
Vince
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Bandit has the superior replacement clutch, is American made, and cheaper. Just look at the bearing carrier failures and what Bandit offers... how can you say the Baker cast aluminum piece is better then the billet Bandit bearing carrier???? You talk about the clutch basket but completely skip the weak link... just look at the pictures posted.

Just so you know, you reuse your baker basket and the Bandit comes with a couple extra plates.

Not sure if you ever seen or installed one, but I'll take the solid billet bearing carrier over the stock cast piece... call me crazy. :lol:
 
TomM

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Bubblehead,I believe he is speaking of the baker king kong clutch,not the stock big dog unit
 
Vince81

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BubbleHead said:
Bandit has the superior replacement clutch, is American made, and cheaper. Just look at the bearing carrier failures and what Bandit offers... how can you say the Baker cast aluminum piece is better then the billet Bandit bearing carrier???? You talk about the clutch basket but completely skip the weak link... just look at the pictures posted.

Just so you know, you reuse your baker basket and the Bandit comes with a couple extra plates.

Not sure if you ever seen or installed one, but I'll take the solid billet bearing carrier over the stock cast piece... call me crazy. :lol:
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I never said the *old style*cast aluminum carrier was better on a BAKER.
The DSSC units that failed & pictured in the post are "old style" BAKER units from the 1st line production.
The carrier issues have been rectified with a newer designed & much stronger piece .
As far as a superior clutch - thats subjective opinion and I only use BAKER.:D

NOTHING In a clutch(wet or dry)is as STRONG as a BAKER KING KONG KLUTCH -but it doesn't fit in , nor is it made for the DSSC primary drive unit.
I run the BAKER FFP Function Formed Primary with the internal Outboard Bearing Support & the KING KONG KLUTCH on my bikes.

I know that you re-use the BAKER clutch basket on the topic posted here that I replied to.....I've installed a few of the Bandit clutches for customers.
Yes it's less expensive ,Yes It's a Made in USA Product ,and Yes it works well.
Yer not Crazy Bubblehead:D
I'd prefer a Billet carrier over the old cast piece myself-so that makes us Both crazy:D
Vince
 
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Vince81 said:
Bandit Machine Works makes a fine replacement clutch for your Big Dog.....
But BAKER Makes one that was designed with a one piece clutch basket out of hardened stainless steel.
More Torque capacity & more clutch plates ( for less heat ,less drag and MORE torque coefficient).
I myself recommend the BAKER Clutch & basket assembly -but the Bandit is also a great unit:D
Vince
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Does this fit 05 and later Big Dogs?

Right now I'm on my 2nd Baker carrier assembly failure with just 5000 miles on my 08 Ridgeback. They have both warped or the braing has failed allowing the basket to have a wobble and cause the clutch plates to bind thus not disseneage correctly thus cause my shift forks and shift rod to bend thus have spent about $1000 bucks and still just looking at the bike sit on a nice 60 degree day :angry:

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V said:
Does this fit 05 and later Big Dogs?

Right now I'm on my 2nd Baker carrier assembly failure with just 5000 miles on my 08 Ridgeback. They have both warped or the braing has failed allowing the basket to have a wobble and cause the clutch plates to bind thus not disseneage correctly thus cause my shift forks and shift rod to bend thus have spent about $1000 bucks and still just looking at the bike sit on a nice 60 degree day :angry:

V
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Yes....the Bandit will work in your 05 Big Dog.Sorry to hear about your carrier assembly failure.:eek: That truly does suck.....I'd call BAKER and see what they will do for you.
They really stand behind everything they sell & make , so I'd be willing to bet that they'll offer YOU help in any way possible.
If you need anything...PM me and I'll see what I can do for you , as I would be willing to help you in any way that I can.
Vince
 
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Vince, Thanks but I was talking about the one you noted from Baker as a Stainless Steel unit.

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Bobby Schulz

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If your going to stay with a wet primary get the Bandit clutch and bandit billet clutch carrier/basket. It really is the only way to go.
 
Vince81

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V said:
Vince, Thanks but I was talking about the one you noted from Baker as a Stainless Steel unit.

V
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Yes the BAKER Unit w/Stainless Steel Basket & Components will fit your bike.

And the BAKER Function Formed Primary & BAKER KING KONG KLUTCH are THE STRONGEST Wet Primary & Clutch available today for motors exceeding 180+ Horsepower.
I Know...I run them and the bikes that are equipped with those Primarys & Clutches on the Street & Strip:D
They aren't cheap-but Good work isn't Cheap & Cheap Work Isn't Good:D

In all fairness...Bandit makes a fine unit-that will give you miles of smiles with little to NO Maintenance or performance issues in a Stock Motor up to 124 C.I.:D
But for those like myself with Monster Motors,Light Bikes & Rider weight(like me at 128 lbs) and Horsepower & Torque numbers above 160 each....
The ONLY Way to go is a BAKER Function Formed Primary-with NO Compensator on the Crank Sprocket , King Kong Klutch & Torque Box Transmission with the N1 Shift Drum.
Vince
 
prairiehorse

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Well thanks for all the advice. I am obviously thinking of either the bruiser by bandit or the baker....
Kinda leaning to the bruiser, but got to get a price on both. My bike is not much more than stock...few add ons is all. No where close to 160hp.....
 
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prairiehorse said:
Well thanks for all the advice. I am obviously thinking of either the bruiser by bandit or the baker....
Kinda leaning to the bruiser, but got to get a price on both. My bike is not much more than stock...few add ons is all. No where close to 160hp.....
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LOTS of dudes here LOVE the Bandit Clutch with good reason:It's an affordable Made in USA Clutch that fits right in there with No issues whatsoever.It's got Strength and Great Build Quality.
I'm a BAKER guy and thats what I use ~and iIve installed Bandits too ,but BAKER is the bulk of what I install & use (and sell ).
I dont think you'll be disappointed in any way with the Bruiser unit:D
Glad to be of any help to you in the reply -and the others here who RUN the Bandit unit will also tell you the same:2thumbs:
Vince
 
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prairiehorse said:
Well thanks for all the advice. I am obviously thinking of either the bruiser by bandit or the baker....
Kinda leaning to the bruiser, but got to get a price on both. My bike is not much more than stock...few add ons is all. No where close to 160hp.....
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Don't waste your money, get the full bandit set up and be done with it all. I don't have a problem with baker, but if you do a search you'll find a lot of their bearing carriers fail dramatically... You won't be disappointed at all work the bandit.

My motor is stock and the grip of this bandit clutch is noticeably better.

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Vince81 said:
I never said the *old style*cast aluminum carrier was better on a BAKER.
The DSSC units that failed & pictured in the post are "old style" BAKER units from the 1st line production.
The carrier issues have been rectified with a newer designed & much stronger piece .
As far as a superior clutch - thats subjective opinion and I only use BAKER.:D

NOTHING In a clutch(wet or dry)is as STRONG as a BAKER KING KONG KLUTCH -but it doesn't fit in , nor is it made for the DSSC primary drive unit.
I run the BAKER FFP Function Formed Primary with the internal Outboard Bearing Support & the KING KONG KLUTCH on my bikes.

I know that you re-use the BAKER clutch basket on the topic posted here that I replied to.....I've installed a few of the Bandit clutches for customers.
Yes it's less expensive ,Yes It's a Made in USA Product ,and Yes it works well.
Yer not Crazy Bubblehead:D
I'd prefer a Billet carrier over the old cast piece myself-so that makes us Both crazy:D
Vince
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Why are you comparing a stock bdm/baker clutch or the bandit bruiser replacement to a clutch set up that can't even be used in a dssc???

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Vince81

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BubbleHead said:
Why are you comparing a stock bdm/baker clutch or the bandit bruiser replacement to a clutch set up that can't even be used in a dssc???

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Not comparing the DSSC and Primary/Clutch to the Bandit or the FFP....just an off topic aside:D
I mentioned that the components in the FFP Or the King Kong Klutch aren't comparable or cant be retro-fit* into the DSSC.
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Not comparing the DSSC and Primary/Clutch to the Bandit or the FFP....just an off topic aside:D
I mentioned that the components in the FFP Or the King Kong Klutch aren't comparable or cant be retro-fit* into the DSSC.
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You HAVE compared them saying how much more hp these other clutches can handle, which is a moot point because we can't retro fit them into our bikes. What's the point if we can't use them?

I think you are knowledgeable on bikes but you are pushing baker parts that have consistent failures. Do some research here and read up on the problems members have had, including clutch nuts backing off and bearing carriers failing/breaking.

Now do a search and see how many people report problems with their bandits... Let us all know what you find.

IMHO, you have lost credibility with me when you push Baker parts that continue to fail. You maybe made of money, but the rest of us are not... why would you keep spending money on the same parts that fail.

Bandit is the answer to this thread, I just hope it's not too late and you don't convince someone to buy another baker clutch.

My recommendation from personal experience, and as an k9 owner since 2007, is the Bandit clutch with the billet bearing carrier.

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