Help Video Attached Not Starting

[Choppergirl]

Hi Everyone,
I have attached a video this time to let everyone hear what I am hearing when I try to start the bike. I hope I attached the video right we will see once I post. I am getting a whinning noise coming from the starter area? It is doing this everytime I try to start it. The clicking at the end of the video is also coming from the starter area not the battery. I had been charging the battery all night and the battery is 4 days old. The bike actually started the day before yesterday and ran good,went on a short trip of 40 miles. Could the starter be going bad? It was just replaced 4 months ago? Any feeedback is appreciated. I am about ready to just haul it to the shop and let them look at it. :bang:

2011-12-29 Dog Starting.3gp - YouTube

 

[Choppergirl]

I think I got the video link right if anyone has trouble just let me know and I can try it again.

 

[texvet16]

Have you checked the battery? Whats the volts on it?

 

[texvet16]

If it wasn't for the sound of it I would say starter.

 

[Nukeranger]

You have a good video. I'll have to listen to it a few times after work. I've never heard a whining noise like that before!

 

[Raywood]

Hi Everyone,
I have attached a video this time to let everyone hear what I am hearing when I try to start the bike. I hope I attached the video right we will see once I post. I am getting a whinning noise coming from the starter area? It is doing this everytime I try to start it. The clicking at the end of the video is also coming from the starter area not the battery. I had been charging the battery all night and the battery is 4 days old. The bike actually started the day before yesterday and ran good,went on a short trip of 40 miles. Could the starter be going bad? It was just replaced 4 months ago? Any feeedback is appreciated. I am about ready to just haul it to the shop and let them look at it. :bang:

2011-12-29 Dog Starting.3gp - YouTube

IF the battery is good then I would say you have a weak connection somewhere between the battery and the starter. Check the wires to the starter and all the grounds.

 

[Kdub]

IF the battery is good then I would say you have a weak connection somewhere between the battery and the starter. Check the wires to the starter and all the grounds.

+1. I have never heard a sound like that. I would get a battery with higher cca rating and check all connections, especially your ground. After that search for how to clean starter contacts on here and go through your starter. The second attempt at starting in the video sounded like your battery was out of juice.

 

[Brew]

Sounds if the battery is too weak. Even if the battery shows good volts, it may not have the cranking amps to get the motor turned over.

 

[Th3InfamousI]

Im with Ray if the battery is good I think you got a shitty connection somewhere.

First I would check all the connections, and if that doesnt work take the battery to autozone and get it load tested. Even though its new it could still be bad. From the sound at the end it sounds like your starter is fine, but clean the connections on the starter with a wire brush too!

 

[JR03CHOPPER]

My '03 was doing that when I first picked it up. It was the battery and the connections to the starter were a little corroded. A good Cleaning and a good quality Maintinance Free Battery cleared it right up. Kdub is right. The CCA could be the issue with the battery.

 

[outdoorsman26]

sounds like your battery is junk the noise you are hearing is your contacts opening and closing, get a volt meter, put it on ur battery and see what you have for voltage, if all is well hit the start button and see wat voltage you have, be sure you have ALL connections tight!! starter and grounds!!

there is also the possibality that your starter "IS" bad and you wouldnt be the first to get one it just happens!! but check that batt and your connections and let us know!!!

 

[Staffy]

Battery or not.....You are not getting enough power to the starter.(No matter what you do careful with the "Start" button - if in fact you do have a loose connection or a short - you may end up burning a wire or two if you get trigger happy).

May I suggest you try cranking the engine without BOTH spark plugs - let us know. Often this is a good indication of the battery condition and may isolate the problem to specific components.

 

[stlmikie]

Staffy is spot on. Take both plugs out and turn it over. With a fresh battery it should spin like crazy.

 

[carl57harley]

Not sure if your bike has them but it sounds like you could use a set of compression releases. Mine are electric and are fantastic - no manual intervention needed.

 

[ringo]

you can determined if its the battery or the starter by using a known good battery such as the one in your car or truck. Kinda like a jump start except hook your good battery to the dicconnected cables from the dog. That way this questionable battery cant interfere with your test. If you have an inductive type amp meter you can check the stater draw. Starter should not draw more than 200 amps according to the book.

 

[Choppergirl]

Thanks for all the help,I have ordered a new battery with more cca. It is coming out of Calif. and has to come to NC so I won't get it until close to the end of the week. I will let you guys know how it does with the better battery. Thanks again for all the help!

 

[Fibersnake]

Did you take the battery in it now and go get it load tested to confirm if it is bad or not if it is good, maybe not enough CCA, but just wondering if you confirmed the state of the exisiting?

Listened to your video and it sounds like not enough juice is getting to the starter. If the battery is good, even if lower than desired CCA, it should turn it over, maybe weak and slow but should turn it over. If the battery was tested and showed good cells and no internal issue, I would be looking at the contact plunger in the starter as well as internal wiring, in case a brush is out of place or possible gunked over. Also the contact plate for the starter solonoid could be corroded over and arc as well out of line not allow a good solid connection and flow of power.

If you get the new battery and it still has problems, would take the starter and have it looked at by an old time starter alternator shop. Hell to be honest I would take it off while you are waiting on the new battery and have them look at it anyway. Bigger CCA are always good and especially for the Bikes that do not have CR, however sometimes putting allot more amps will resolve the problem that is seen, but there may be an underlying problem that the extra boost will hide.

Maybe I missed it, but from what it sounds like to me, if you have the exisiting battery tested out and it is good (real test not just a voltage-but a load test and one that checks the inner cells), would lean towards the starter, assuming alll connections and cables are tight and not corroded or broken strands, which I understand you have all ready checked for.

A good battery should be able to spin that over with no problems, even a lower CCA should, maybe not very fast, but should spin it over.

Let us know how you make out.

 

[makithapn]

I agree with Ray sounds like a bad connection, usually at the battery.
after you try to start it touch the battery wires at the battery post,
if they are hot, bad connection. I have to tighten mine regularly.
careful could be very hot