585 Cam Install PDF

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Great work!
 
REMorris

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toodie said:
I created a PDF based on Bowhunter's install tutorial. Also added some content from PHATASS & chacha

Hopefully this can be usefull to forum and maybe it will come in handy for myself once day :D

http://www.abirthdayanywhere.org/bigdog/585-Cam-Install.pdf
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This appears to be the exact same thing as was posted already in the how-to section.

One thing missing from this procedure is that when you pull the old cam out, your lifters can fall out. To avoid this, put a rubberband around the lifters on each cylinder and create some sideways tension to allow them to stay in the up position in their respective bore. Remove the rubberbands after the new cam is in place.

Anyone reading this needs to be aware that the adjustment of the pushrods section DID NOT work (for me). I followed it exactly 3 times and each time, I ended up with excessive lifter noise after the engine had warmed up. If you do it this way (as shown in the PDF as well as the HOW To (pdf is the same thing, just ripped off someone elses work IMHO)), you will find that you will have excessive lifter noise. You can have your pushrods end up getting bent because of it.

I strongly suggest that you adjust each pushrod separately and that you find the heel of the cam lobe by using a dial indicator on a magnetic base ($40 from Harbor Freight). Using the dial indicator, it is extremely clear when you are on the heel of each lobe. Yes, you still need to let the lifters bleed down before any rotation. This is a time consuming but easy task.

All I am saying is don't be like a lemming and jump off a cliff just because everyone else has done it. Use some common sense and spend the $40 bucks on the proper tool. You only want to do this one time and have it right, right? And you end up with a new tool that can be used on other things.

It should be a crime to post or repost a "how to" type thing unless you have actually done the procedure yourself. Toodie admitted he has never done this in his post "Hopefully this can be usefull to forum and maybe it will come in handy for myself once day "

Richard
 
toodie

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Dude what is with you and the "lemmings" seriously. All I did was take the information and put it into a format that any "lemming" can access easily. As for your humble opinion you know what they say about opinions :D

If and when I upgrade my cam I will be sure to consider your tips along with tips from many other knowledgeable forum members and apply them to the install.
 
REMorris

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Pay very close attention to the guys that have done it... "Dude".

It's not that I don't appreciate your efforts, I do. It's just that a flawed procedure is included in the compilation. Do everyone a favor, revise the pdf with an upfront warning how some asshole on bigdogbiker.com jumped your shit about the pushrod adjustment part. Offer up that if they follow the flawed method and end up with a LOT of loose lifter noise, then maybe the asshole was right and the pushrod adjustment using a dial indicator might be worth looking into.

If you don't understand what my reference to "lemmings" means then Google it. (hint: it's not related to the comedy Lemmings)

And I have never denied that I can piss people off. If this thread keeps 1 guy from bending pushrods (due to poorly adjusted pushrods), then I am happy.

You should be happy as well.
 
PaulHart

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I thought this one explained the pushrod adjustment pretty well.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6Q9GpWfXAw&feature=youtube_gdata_player]YouTube - ‪How To Adjust Pushrods On S&S Evo Big Twin 117‬‏[/ame]
 
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MARV

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as in Chacha's original thread, there are many ways to confirm TDC on the comp stroke for either cylinder. dial indicator seems a much more accurate way then the "eyeball" in the above video. but adjusting the front with the flywheel mark at T:F is a no brainer. for the rear, while turning the motor over with rear wheel, i check for comp coming from plug hole then using a straw find highest point of the piston. all the while making sure the rods are at their lowest position.

like they say, it always hurts a little the first time. :eek:
 
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Five Five

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PaulHart said:
So somebody post up an example of a good dial indicator and what range of measurement should a person be looking at for general around the shop use. I'm looking at ToolTopia.com and they're upwards of $30 to above $130.

Didn't someone on here make a holder for a dial indicator out of a old spark plug or something. I saw that on here somewhere.

Nevermind I found it.

http://www.bigdogbiker.com/forums/how/24266-t-d-c-tool.html?highlight=Spark+plug+dial+indicator
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I'm your huckleberry..... that was my how to on the TDC tool
Works great :2thumbs:
 
PaulHart

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PHATASS said:
Hey, that's ME!!!!! :whoop:
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Five Five said:
I'm your huckleberry..... that was my how to on the TDC tool
Works great :2thumbs:
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Wow it's cool to be in the presence of celebrity's. Good video and good idea on the spark plug/dial indicator. Seeing how I need one anyway I may look at that one mentioned in Five Five's thread from S&S. Any excuse to buy tools. :whoop:

Maybe a group buy on S&S TDC Dial indicators. Anybody listening?
 
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