lost key

The keys that my locksmith made for me was an exact fit for a bdm ignition. The brand of blank is called ilco and the part # on the key is X77 YH38. looking at the key the X77 is on the top left corner and YH38 is on the top right. Didn't have to touch it after. Hope this helps!!!
 

Ray

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You know I feel so much better with my new switch I swapped out when I was forced to do the wire plus, possibly the 2nd best thing next to getting rid of the ech.
When I first got my scooter and had misplaced the key,I tryed the key to my lawn mower and it started right up and I could remove the key and it would stay running. I thought the switch was bad so I got another switch, brand new and what do you know the lawn mower key would do the exact same thing. Start and run!!!!

I am not telling you all what lawn mower key will fit your scooters, but they are out there.

Ray :2thumbs:
 

stilcrazee

Member
Gents, I've posted this before. It's not a new issue, keys eventually fall out of these ignition switches. Kinda like leaving lottery tickets for your bike on the road.

When it first happened to me (in 2001) it was a weekend where I had planned to put about 500-600 miles on that Sunday, and having left the first key "somewhere" on the road Friday night where retracing my steps didn't yield the old key- I was real nervous about using the second one, my last. I lucked out in a way that I don't often do, but after stopping at a few hardware stores one of them had a key blank that was the right length and width, but the depth (thickness) of the blank was a little too much. I figured why not have spend a couple of bucks to have one made and try to file a little bit off the thickness of the new key a bit? Well, it worked and there was an added plus, check this:

Find a good hardware store, or call ahead to the ones in your area that are "big" on key making. Ask if they have a key blank with the number HD 82 stamped on the left and x129 stamped on the right. If they do, bring your spare to them and have however many copies made onto the new blank(s). They're usually a couple bucks each or so...

Take the new key(s) back to the 'ol work bench and use a 1/4 inch dremel tool barrel sander attachment a leetle bit at a time on both sides of the new key, as evenly as you can (when you're sober). Stop often, wipe the dust off the key and try it in the ignition. Once it fits... then go just a tiny bit MORE. Just a little. It only takes about 15 minutes or so when done very slowly and carefully. What you'll find is that not only will the new key work- but it will no longer "lock" in place inside the ignition switch when the ignition is on!!! So now you can turn your ignition on- pull the key out- then clip it to your wallet chain (just like with older HD's)! Ride as long as you want without worrying about leaving keys on the road in random places. The only trouble is remembering to take the key off your wallet chain and shut the ignition back off when you arrive at a stopping point (I mean, before the lights wear out the battery (or somebody yells "hey you left your lights on" -that's embarrassing)).

I thought of posting a photo of what it looks like but then realized I'd be showing the key pattern for my bike's ignition switch to the world, lol. If you want or need a pic let me know and I'll try to figure out how to do it without displaying said key pattern, but for now I gotta get to work before I'm late. Hey- it will give y'all time to call the hardware stores in your area to see if they have that blank, should you wish to take the poor man's approach.
I can honestly say I've never had to stop at Eastern Mountain Sports for a carabiner, unless I was planning to actually climb, or repel, or steal the pink panther diamond again--- cue music. :)
Respect,
OHM
P.S. After eleven years I've still got the original ignition switch on my bike. I think this approach also helps that "vibration" thing that causes so many to have to replace their switches over time. Just a reasonable guess that I'm making regarding that tho'.

That keyblank number is a very old Honda blank that may not be on anyone's shelf anymore.

If you guys have any problems finding blanks send me the blank number (I'll see if my code program has info to cut your keys bt "the code number" if you want to provide it..if you have it) and I'll see what I have on my shelf. I am a locksmith.

PM or email me through the forum if you think I can help.
 

Oldhvymetal

Member
The keys that my locksmith made for me was an exact fit for a bdm ignition. The brand of blank is called ilco and the part # on the key is X77 YH38. looking at the key the X77 is on the top left corner and YH38 is on the top right. Didn't have to touch it after. Hope this helps!!!
Same brand on the blank for me, ilco. I liked that I could shave the key a bit and remove it after the ignition was on- curious Big B, same with the other blank number that you used? No disrespect, maybe you hadn't tried that. As I said, it was dumb luck for me to stumble upon it. I'm sure if the HW store I went to had the X77 YH38 blank that I never would have known.

Stilcrazee- awesome! The local hardware guys did say it was a rare blank, but I buy enough other stuff at their shop that they said they would do their best to keep it in stock and I haven't needed one in a good long while, best guess 6 or so years since the last time (one time I left the shaved key in the ignition and of course it vibrated out before I got to my next stop). *looking for the emoticon for slapping myself on the forehead*
Peace,
OHM
 

stilcrazee

Member
Same brand on the blank for me, ilco. I liked that I could shave the key a bit and remove it after the ignition was on- curious Big B, same with the other blank number that you used? No disrespect, maybe you hadn't tried that. As I said, it was dumb luck for me to stumble upon it. I'm sure if the HW store I went to had the X77 YH38 blank that I never would have known.

Stilcrazee- awesome! The local hardware guys did say it was a rare blank, but I buy enough other stuff at their shop that they said they would do their best to keep it in stock and I haven't needed one in a good long while, best guess 6 or so years since the last time (one time I left the shaved key in the ignition and of course it vibrated out before I got to my next stop). *looking for the emoticon for slapping myself on the forehead*
Peace,
OHM
ILCO is probably THE player when it comes to aftermarket key blanks. They do some OEM stuff but are mainly in the hardware/locksmith blank manufacturing market along with making or private labeling various locks.(many ACE stores only use HiKo, a Chinese company) . They own several other companies they (bought the competition) both here in the states, Canada and Italy. X77 is a Yamaha blank. I currently have about 25ea. of X129 in case anyone needs any.
 

barhopper

Another round please
just picked up my 06 k9 and lost the only key i have....anybody know where i can get a key made without going through big dog?
BDM upgraded the ignition switch. $75 gets you a new switch and 2 keys. It wont fall out again. BDM parts I am sure can take care of your problem.
 

Moespeeds

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Jeez guys, $87, grinding keys, and all this hassle over an ign switch. Like I said, $20 at any Harley dealer and you get a 2 pos Sportster key switch, with 2 keys that won't fall out, and can be duplicated at any Harley dealer. As Big Dog parts fail, I highly recommend finding a non-BD solution!
 
Nope!!!! Doesn't come out of my switch, I don't really prefer for them to come out though. I live in a basically rural area so I can leave mine with the key in it most of the time.
 

RRRUFF

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Jeez guys, $87, grinding keys, and all this hassle over an ign switch. Like I said, $20 at any Harley dealer and you get a 2 pos Sportster key switch, with 2 keys that won't fall out, and can be duplicated at any Harley dealer. As Big Dog parts fail, I highly recommend finding a non-BD solution!
After my key switch failed I went the sportster style switch since I was planning on and have changed my ehc for the Wire Plus. Easy install, no more worries.:2thumbs:
 

Oldhvymetal

Member
Jeez guys, $87, grinding keys, and all this hassle over an ign switch. Like I said, $20 at any Harley dealer and you get a 2 pos Sportster key switch, with 2 keys that won't fall out, and can be duplicated at any Harley dealer. As Big Dog parts fail, I highly recommend finding a non-BD solution!
You know what they say Moe- if 'ya can't find 'em grind 'em!
...or sumthin' like that. :cheers:
 
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