K-9 Build starting with the frame?

[Nukeranger]

Has anyone done this on this forum?

I plan to build a K-9 starting with the frame with all custom parts I want such as

Wheels
Exhaust
Simple paint scheme that I will not do (Somebody else can paint the tins)
Custom tank
Pegs I like
Sissy bar
Forks
etc.

So, my question would be - Why not?

Thanks in advance for your opinions.

BTW, I don't care if it takes a few years. I have several other bikes to ride.:2thumbs:

 

[RubWhore]

I did it

 

[Tim]

I believe Shovel Cowboy did too... not sure if it was a chopper of K9 frame though.

 

[Nukeranger]

Excellent,

I just have to pull the trigger. I will also take pictures of the progress for registration and entry into the Horse Magazine. I already did a build (1968 BSA Chopper/bobber) for my wife several years ago which ended up in the Horse magazine.

 

[LamboV12]

FWIW - I would buy the frame from Daytec - they built the K9 before BD did it in house and they still have the specs. I would get the exact same frame but without the set up for the balanced drive - that way you can use a standard Baker trans. If it's build to BD specs, the mounting plate for the trans is different and the top motor mount is 1/16" of inch different. I spoke them about a year ago about doing it...

 

[Nukeranger]

Thanks,

I have a quote of $3600 for the frame from Daytec.

Huw

 

[airbrush-ed]

I was about to say talk to Rubwhore cause he did it, but he beat me to it. He can help you out alot with parts tho.

 

[Moespeeds]

Toss the DSSC drive and the bars/electrical. All they do is cause problems and limit your choices for aftermarket parts. Basically you just got yourself a ground up build.

 

[RubWhore]

Toss the DSSC drive and the bars/electrical. All they do is cause problems and limit your choices for aftermarket parts. Basically you just got yourself a ground up build.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

 

[Nukeranger]

Moespeeds, I am following your thread and I am very impressed. I plan on sticking with a 300 back tire and hope I don't have to fabricate too many parts.

 

[Moespeeds]

Depending on the wheel you will need custom spacers and possibly offsets for the pulley and or rotor. Make sure whoever makes them that they index them or you'll be dealing with sheared bolts down the road.

 

[TimNY]

Nuke
I'm glad I'm not alone. I'm working on a BDM 04 Chopper build right now about 50% done. I bought my frame on Cycle Trader. I'm useing many BDM parts but I chose different rims,controls,wiring,Exhaust ect....-Thats what a Chopper is a custom built motorcycle-not a bought off a shelf or a box chopper. I give you credit and lots of luck with your build. I'm enjoying my build,should be running by Spring.
Moespeeds is very knowledgable- I've used his help quite a few times and value his opinion. Build it your way and be proud to say I did it myself. Tim

 

[LamboV12]

Thanks,

I have a quote of $3600 for the frame from Daytec.

Huw

That's sounds about right - but it's a sweet frame and set up, with the oil tank in the bottom of the frame and all...

I ended up tearing mine down to the ground and rebuilding everything my way. The only BD on my bike is the frame number and balanced drive. Being able to register it as a BD keeps insurance low and the bike is very balanced.

I'll always keep this bike.

 

[Nukeranger]

Lambo, you said "I would get the exact same frame but without the set up for the balanced drive - that way you can use a standard Baker trans. If it's build to BD specs, the mounting plate for the trans is different and the top motor mount is 1/16" of inch different. I spoke them about a year ago about doing it..."

So, do you have the set up for the balanced drive? If you can explain the balanced drive setup, I would appreciated it. I have only dealt with British bikes until now.

Like others, I do want something different but I sure like the K9 frame!

 

[Nukeranger]

OK, So the question is do I want the following described on the Baker Transmission site

"DSSC is a complete drivetrain unit consisting of a Right Side Drive transmission and an enclosed primary drive. The inner primary, outer primary, tranny case, trap door, top cover, and pulley shroud are all carved out of 6061-T6 billet. We cut no corners to make this premium drivetrain look like Tiffany jewelry and take punishment from a big inch motor.

DSSC is a complete RSD drivetrain system and is compatible, without modification, with Daytec, Rolling Thunder, Dakota Thunder, and similar RSD Softail and Hardtail frames with zero engine offset and a left tranny offset. The offset is built into the inner primary - no spacer required. DSSC is set up for 240/250 tire applications using a 1-inch belt. 280 and 300 tire applications are possible with a 530 O-ring and an offset sprocket...

Of, course I would use a Karata belt drive with tribal outer cover bearing support.

Huw

 

[RubWhore]

Well Baker is a good trany except when you talk to all the folks that have busted mainshafts and the clutch setups are reel good too but thats if you dont talk to all the guys with the broken clutch baskets I haint had no problems yet but I been lucky

 

[Mk4-2jz]

I'm glad your doing your own build. I'm going that root also but for me I'm using the ironhorse LSC ridged frame. I started my build about six months ago and I'm almost at a complete rolling chassis. It's alot of work but you'll end up with what you want. If I could go back in time I also would use a k9 frame. It's to late for me though lol$$$$. Good luck it will be a fun ride.

 

[Moespeeds]

DSSC is one of those things where they tried to re-invent the wheel and ended up with something not quite as good. Yeah it's a "balanced" drive, but I'd bet money that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference riding a regular RSD chassis. For the faulty clutch basket, the inability to safety wire or lock the hub nut, added complexity, and limitations on starters and primary's that it introduces, it's a giant step backwards. Stick with what's standard and easy to work on. Get a regular RSD tranny from Revtech or Ultima, you could blow up 3 before you pay for one Baker, and make absolutely certain that you do not put even a single Big Dog proprietary electrical component in the bike.

 

[LamboV12]

Nuke - sorry for delay in answering - not on here a lot -

I meant that I would have them buid the exact same same frame based on the geometry of the frame, stretch, rake, etc - because it fits me like a glove. I also like the oil tank in the bottom. When I spoke to Dave over there, I told him I wanted a K9 frame, but set up for a standard evo motor and standard 6 speed trans.

With respect to of DSSC - a 300 fat tire bike looks good, but the drawback is normally it requires a large off set plate to get the drive train to line up. This is done by shifting to the right and big tire bikes usually pull / lean to the right due to the off set.

DSSC and Big Dog's don't require a large off set because it makes up for the distance in the trans (compared to a stock trans). The end result you get a very balanced 300 tire bike that you can take your hands off the wheel and go straight down the road without fighting it.

Only other bike I've ridden that comes close to being as balanced is a Bourget -who uses a jack shaft design that he invented.

The Baker DSSC cost a lot and you could save a lot of money going standard trans. You also can get DSSC parts without going through BD if you do your homework -

 

[bloodlust]

I have a slightly used DSSC complete primary that only has 1200 miles on it I took it off and went with the baker belt drive primary. I also have BDM forward controls and hand controls. and stock pegs rider and passenger, everything came off the bike at the same time. If anybody is interested just PM me and we will work some thing out.