I talked to Big Dog yesterday they tell me they have started building a replacement for the ehc which will be along the line of circuit breakers and fuses. First priority is for 2005 - 2007 and 2004 to follow. It will involve a under tank connection and and will be around $495. Should be available in late Oct........
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Too late for me...Wire Plus is in the mail...on the way..!!!!
Big Dog should have come up with this plan...years ago.!!!!
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bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
...and besides, it will still have the screwed up Hewlett Packard throwout serial plug in the bike and that junk stock low voltage ignition switch.
They will replace the main culprit, but many little problems will still be there.
We'll see! Hope they did their homework... they have obviously had long enough to work it out.
They will replace the main culprit, but many little problems will still be there.
We'll see! Hope they did their homework... they have obviously had long enough to work it out.
bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
I am talking about the factory serial plug on the current EHC. And I didn't mention a single thing about "voltage input" on the ignition switch. You pulled all that out of the air. Read my post again.
Your telling me... that when this new "EHC replacement" gets installed, that the dealer is removing the entire backbone harness with the factory Serial plug on it and not going to use that entire harness and plug?
And your saying that the dealer will replace the stock low amperage/voltage BDM ignition switch with a 12 volt switch high current switch?
It was mentioned that dealers were going to be alotted 2 hours pay for this install. Doesn't seem like much time to gut all the wiring out of the bike to eliminate the stock serial plug and to change the ignition switch out?
I know nothing more about this new system than anyone else and never said that I did know more about it.
I just stated that more needed to be rplaced in the bike to fix the issues.
BigDogBro1
Made in the USA
Nice to hear BDM has finally recognized the need and is making an alternative to fixing the EHC problems.
I'm surprised BDM hasn't done a Wire Plus type of replacement module that uses the original harness connections on the EHC. I was thinking of designing a module to sell but now hear rumors.
I'm surprised BDM hasn't done a Wire Plus type of replacement module that uses the original harness connections on the EHC. I was thinking of designing a module to sell but now hear rumors.
Ohmster
Kansas Motorcycle Works
With the new system the backbone and power harness get replaced. The new system is a direct plug and play setup so there is no cutting or splicing required. The key switch does not get replaced and does not need to be replaced in its new function.
As for the 2 hours that is more than enough time to R&R the system under the current warranty times paid.
As for the 2 hours that is more than enough time to R&R the system under the current warranty times paid.
bdmridgeback
Low Down Chop Shop
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
Well I look forward to the new EHC from Big Dog and plan on getting it shortly after it comes out. If it is a direct plug in to the harness and does not required cut out plugs and reterminating, even better.
Hopefully, (and I have faith in BD) it will take care of any problems and be much more reliable than the older ones, which in fairness has done okay for me, though I did replace one due to my own fault and the last one went out due to another problem.
As far as the low amp ignition switch, it is just making a circuit and with the design of the overall scheme, should not be a problem, though may wear out sooner than a more heavy duty switch, but in fairness my original is still holding up fine after 5 years.
For the WP, many have replaced their original or replacment EHC with such and so far seem to be a good product. That said the newest one from BD may be just as good or better and only time will tell. If it does hold up and provides the reliablilty that one would expect, it is all good and having a simple plug and play cannot be nothing but a positive.
May piss off some folks on here, but I will say that having a vendor that is selling a product that many people have been satisfied with and no compliants come on and automatically downgrade something from the factory without seeing how it holds up, is not all that koshar IMHO. WP is a good product and has provided many member on here with what they need and as such may be the ticket even after BD newest EHC have been out there.
Till a history is shown with the new EHC, I will hold judgement until a base is established and then let the products speak for themselves.
I do plan on givng the new EHC a try though and be part of that base and if it is shit, so be it and I will look into WP, if not great also and will allow me to have a good product and be happy and allows those that go with WP the same.
Let the true comparison begun once the BD EHC is out there and shows some history. Tell then it is all opinions and like my opinion, most are opinions are like, well most know the rest of the saying!!!!!
Hopefully, (and I have faith in BD) it will take care of any problems and be much more reliable than the older ones, which in fairness has done okay for me, though I did replace one due to my own fault and the last one went out due to another problem.
As far as the low amp ignition switch, it is just making a circuit and with the design of the overall scheme, should not be a problem, though may wear out sooner than a more heavy duty switch, but in fairness my original is still holding up fine after 5 years.
For the WP, many have replaced their original or replacment EHC with such and so far seem to be a good product. That said the newest one from BD may be just as good or better and only time will tell. If it does hold up and provides the reliablilty that one would expect, it is all good and having a simple plug and play cannot be nothing but a positive.
May piss off some folks on here, but I will say that having a vendor that is selling a product that many people have been satisfied with and no compliants come on and automatically downgrade something from the factory without seeing how it holds up, is not all that koshar IMHO. WP is a good product and has provided many member on here with what they need and as such may be the ticket even after BD newest EHC have been out there.
Till a history is shown with the new EHC, I will hold judgement until a base is established and then let the products speak for themselves.
I do plan on givng the new EHC a try though and be part of that base and if it is shit, so be it and I will look into WP, if not great also and will allow me to have a good product and be happy and allows those that go with WP the same.
Let the true comparison begun once the BD EHC is out there and shows some history. Tell then it is all opinions and like my opinion, most are opinions are like, well most know the rest of the saying!!!!!
It's gonna be the wire plus for me when I get some other issues worked out from install of new ignition might not even be that but I got to say Jake helped when he didn't have to and that says something... So if wp has a prob I know he'll step up and help .for now I just want to ride again peace. :flag:
Fibersnake
Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
wyatt,
Good to hear and I hope that the WP will cure the problem of whatever the ignition is. Seems everyone that has put them on and made comments seem to be happy and Jake reputation as helping those that have is not in question. Good luck and safe riding
Good to hear and I hope that the WP will cure the problem of whatever the ignition is. Seems everyone that has put them on and made comments seem to be happy and Jake reputation as helping those that have is not in question. Good luck and safe riding
BigDogBro1
Made in the USA
Fibersnake, you'll be the beta tester for the forum. Make sure you do some photos during the install for a review. Curious to see if it's a barebones basic controls module or still includes the datalogging USB electronics. Hopefully only a simple BASIC module.
Glad you're giving it a try. I would once I understood it's operation and design.
Glad you're giving it a try. I would once I understood it's operation and design.
ChopperJeff
Active Member
Too late for me as I've got the Wire-Plus installed. Without going into details, I doubt you can beat the support provided by Jake at LowDownChopShop, and the person at Wire-Plus.
Now with all that said, doesn't it strike anyone as a bit odd that people are going to rely on the very same people that designed and built the crappy EHC in the first place to somehow NOW come up with a great new reliable design? Granted, without all the processor crap and all, perhaps it has a much better chance at working correctly. On the other hand, why not just go with an already proven "off the shelf" product instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
Don't get me wrong... I love Big Dog, and have always found their support excellent. Just a shame that they've been screwed by their own EHC design.
Now with all that said, doesn't it strike anyone as a bit odd that people are going to rely on the very same people that designed and built the crappy EHC in the first place to somehow NOW come up with a great new reliable design? Granted, without all the processor crap and all, perhaps it has a much better chance at working correctly. On the other hand, why not just go with an already proven "off the shelf" product instead of trying to reinvent the wheel.
Don't get me wrong... I love Big Dog, and have always found their support excellent. Just a shame that they've been screwed by their own EHC design.
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