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mlb2992

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Anybody know any contacts at the factory in the paint dept. I'm looking to get a New solid white K-9 done in an American Flag scheme. I'd like to send them my tins and let them do it vs. trying to find someone that I don't know anything about?? My local BD dealer (2hrs away) said that they would probally do it....who knows??? Any ideas??? Any good pix out there to help me with a scheme??
 

P8RIOT

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Here's a little more detail on my experience with Big Dog painters, MLB. We have all seen the fantastic work they can do, on this forum, at dealers, at rides, with our BD friends, etc. Here is a shot of their distribution warehouse. As I've said many times, I'd be proud to ride away with anything in there.


You can go on a tour inside the factory, if you time it right. Here's a shot of the racks of finished skins waiting for final assembly. Before I ordered my K-9, I was looking for every example of flag bikes I could find. You can see there were two flag sets in this view.


Here's a closer shot of the one most similar to mine. This basic scheme is patterned after their 20,000th Big Dog bike. They did their 5000th, 10,000, and 20,000 bikes in full flag paint - each one getting a little better, in my opinion.


I was able to visit Wichita just at the time they were working on my skins. Here is the painter holding my tank. He had the basic pattern done, and was about to do the trim, including gold navy wings in the dark blue oval.


Here he is holding the front fender - all done, except for the clear coat.


This is what the bike looks like all completed.


Here's a closeup of the trim work on the tank, and the navy wings.


One of the primary reasons I went with Big Dog was because of their extraodinary graphics work. If you can dream it up, they can paint it. I provided my dealer with a 30-page PowerPoint package (ok, call me anal) that specified exactly what I wanted, including paint colors, how much metalflake, width of the stripes, type of stars, and even pics of several other flag bikes, pointing out what I did and did not like. In the end, though, I also made it clear that I was relying on the creativity and talent of their graphics professionals to make this an extraordinary, one-of-a-kind bike.

They did such a fantastic job that I made another trip to Wichita to offer them my personal thanks. In this pic I am shaking hands with "Juice," the painter. The other guy on the left is Matt, our BD regional rep - he was very instrumental in ensuring I got exactly what I was looking for.


These are great people, back at the factory. If you ever have a chance, be sure to drop in and tell them how much you love their work. You can imagine how they hear all the negative feedback - never miss an opportunity to tell them what they do right, too.

MLB - I have a lot more pictures showing more detail on my bike, as well as a collection of other flag paint. Let me know if you want to see any more.
 

Raywood

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Cutter, hope you don't mind but I had to upload those two babes into the gallery section. :cheers:

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Ray
 

P8RIOT

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The bike by the boat is a pattern Big Dog calls "American Flames." I really like it too, but chose to go with the more traditional "Full Flag" design. BDM also does a great one called "Tearaway Flag," and more recenly "Glory Days," which includes an eagle.
 

Cutter

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Cutter, hope you don't mind but I had to upload those two babes into the gallery section. :cheers:

Thanks,
Ray
Just don't pass it around, I don't want my wife all over the internet... :whoop:


I will have to divorce my current wife, and meet her... but then I would be very possesive :D
 

P8RIOT

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Here are a few more pics that I have at work - lots more at home. All the comments indicate my own personal observations and preferences - never meant to criticize anyone else's pride and joy.

This is one of the first K-9's I had seen. It has a real "clean" look, with relatively simple lines.


Notice how the stars are well placed in a diagonal pattern, and how the stars are simple but realistic - maybe a little too small or far apart. Personally, I didn't prefer the swooping intersection between the blue field and the stripes.


The stripes are simple but direct - the lines are hard, between the red and white - there is one large "fold" that appears very realistic - the airbrushed highlights and shadows are very delicately done.


The front wheel shows the same geometric pattern with the stars. Also notice on this bike how light the blue color is. I believe at the time Big Dog called it "Candy Blue." On a real flag, the blue is much deeper, closer to navy blue. I thought the spiky wheels were a nice touch, in comparison to the star points. As it turned out, I had to make a special request to get those wheels, as they had since then changed to the new pattern for 2007.


A close look at the battery cover shows the stripes are disjointed. I asked for the painter to ensure the stripes show a continuous flow from the tank, through the battery cover, and onto the rear fender.


This was a nice job on an early Bulldog - great detail with the airbrush work. They had one like this on display in a Wichita credit union.


This was one of the earliest chopper shots I found on the internet. The folds in the stripes seemed a little harsh to me.


Here's a nice Ridgeback. Notice how dark the blue paint is - what they called Misty Midnight Blue. It is probably the most realistic blue compared to the real flag, but I thought it left the bike a little to dark looking.


This is one of the nicest jobs on a rear fender I had seen. The airbrush work seemed to make it very realistic.


I was less impressed by the break in the stripes on the tank. The stars were simple and clean, but spaced too far apart, or else too small.


This is the 20,000th Big Dog bike, and the one that inspired mine. There's a story here - I had just gone through airport hell trying to get to Wichita - flight delays, bad weather, crowded airports - finally arrived around midnight. Dragging my bag through the deserted Wichita airport, I wondered if they'd have a new bike on display, to pick my spirits up - then I rounded the corner and saw my dream bike - a brand new K-9 in full flag paint! I made that shot my screen saver for the next year while mine was being designed and built.


Gotta love that 300 tire! You can see I Photoshopped in my navy wings on the tank, too, in place of the "20,000." If you look closely, you can see hand-painted white stitches at the edge of the red stripes. On mine, the painter also used some kind of cheesecloth method (I think), to show the warp and woof patterns in the paint - that is, rather than continuous color, you can see the crossed threads that weave together to make the cloth. In my specs, I told the painter I wanted it to look so realistic that Marines would salute when I rode by - I haven't tested it out on LDO yet. :D


Another view, from the other side - I must have taken a hundred shots of that display.


Bottom line - if you work closely with the painter, they will make it whatever you want - and in the end, they will take as much pride in outcome as you do.
 

Coolbreeze

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MLB2992,

I've got contact #'s. They will do anything you want. But they'll probably want you to send you sheetmetal back through a dealer.
 

P8RIOT

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MLB, you said you were interested in having the rear fender painted with a ragged end on the flag - here is one example I found parked outside Emerson Biggin's in Wichita:




Here is an example of a full flag bike with a red frame - most are blue. Since you are starting with a white frame, I think you can imagine how different it might look. Notice that this one doesn't have the battery cover painted with flag stripes, either.


I hope this is helpful as you develop your design.
 

Gas Man

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Anybody know any contacts at the factory in the paint dept. I'm looking to get a New solid white K-9 done in an American Flag scheme. I'd like to send them my tins and let them do it vs. trying to find someone that I don't know anything about?? My local BD dealer (2hrs away) said that they would probally do it....who knows??? Any ideas??? Any good pix out there to help me with a scheme??
You want to speak to Nick Brewer. he's the head paint guy over there!
 

mlb2992

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I just wish I could get in touch with him....tried for 6-7 days...left messages..never heard back. OH well....I found an outfit I liked in Ft. Lauderdale....Starting the project Monday!! :)
 

mlb2992

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Well....I'm going with a the Flag scheme. Still keeping alot of white as the main color...with a torn look. The scheme will look like the flag was painted as the first coat..and the white is tearing away(on tank and front fender) then the back fender will just be flag with tattered ends.We've been brain-storming with this look...but I've gotta say, I'm a little uneasy taking a new bike with perfect paint now....and letting somebody start throwing red and blue around!!! :) we'll see...I take it tomorrow and get it back around the 5th of Jan. ....way too long to be without it down here....the best riding season we have!!! I'll keep everybody posted on the progress.
 
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