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Well I picked up my bike yesterday and it's a huge improvement from the original state. Pretty much the neck snapper I was looking for. I'll post the changes that took place but I need to get 500 miles on it to really let it rip and give you a seat of the pants report. The ignition, pipes, and carb were previously done so I'll just give you the basic motor work.
Cylinders were shortened by .045 (which means -.045 from where they were so actual finish length may differ)
Positive deck by .010 (piston above cylinder)
.010 base gaskets and .030 head gaskets.
Woods 9F cam installed with new bearing (.650 lift .256 duration)
Travel limiters installed due to fast ramp of cam
Tappet blocks clearanced as well.
Cylinders re honed with new rings
Manley .650 high lift springs with custom lower spring collars.
spring seats machined/complete valve job
heads cc'd (90.8)
some combustion chamber modifications/other headwork
intake manifold machined .035 off per side due to cylinder length reduction
static compression set at 10.8:1
aggressive timing curve set with crane HI-4 28 deg. BTDC and rear cyl. @0
rejetted carb (set a little fat for break in) 82 main 33 int.
 

Alicat

Hanging out
Damn Al, we won't even be able to ride with you anymore, can't wait to see it!
The Other Al
 

Cutter

Well-Known Member
VVVVVVVVVVRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hey was that Al ?

Don't know, I didn't see him ?

Sounded like Al...

:whoop:
 
I was also informed that S&S has come out with a new final drive belt that is not kevlar but its been holding up great with high torque high horsepower machines, and its supposed to be a good alternative to a chain. The other good news is that its the same price you would pay for a gates replacement belt.
 

Nomad2day

Longhair Redneck Geek
I was also informed that S&S has come out with a new final drive belt that is not kevlar but its been holding up great with high torque high horsepower machines, and its supposed to be a good alternative to a chain. The other good news is that its the same price you would pay for a gates replacement belt.
Awesome to hear the report on your scoot....Hope to see it in person sometime soon. Always enjoyed your input to the forum and pushing the limits...Sweet....:2thumbs: :2thumbs:

Do you have anymore info on the belt? "Link" I am in need of a belt and it fits my needs as well...

Never mind, I did a search on the belts..

Page 64 of 2008 Performance Guide by S&S Cycle
1958-2008 50th ann iversary s&s®/gates® high strength final drive belts how many final drive belts have s&s engines broken yes a lot of power can break things so what s the solution the solution that we are offering is stronger belts s&s has teamed up with the gates® corporation a leading manufacturer of power transmission belts to offer a series of secondary drive belts for many popular v-twin models these belts feature gates super strong x3n carbon cord material which is significantly stronger than the aramid material used in many oem final drive belts s&s final drive belts by gates are available with 14mm pitch in 11/2 and 11/8 widths see the chart below and match the width and number of teeth required for your vehicle you can find this information in the vehicle service manual 106-0361 secondary drive belts 14mm pitch teeth 125 126 127 128 130 132 133 135 136 139 11/8 wide 106-0357 n/a n/a 106-0358 106-0359 106-0360 106-0361 106-0362 n/a 106-0363 msrp $164.95 * * $164.95 $164.95 $164.95 $174.95 $174.95 * $174.95 11/2 wide n/a 106-0348 106-0349 106-0350 106-0351 106-0352 106-0353 106-0354 106-0355 106-0356 msrp * $174.95 $174.95 $174.95 $174.95 $174.95 $177.95 $179.95 $179.95 $184.95 email us at sscust@sscycle.com 64

Thanks,
Neil
 
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Chopper Dave

SIICK!!!
hell yeah Al!!:whoop: :2thumbs: glad you got your scoot back! can't wait to hear it! yeah that fuckers definately going to be Ignorant!:whoop: :2thumbs:
 

HDLARRY

Active Member
Al,

Sounds like a serious bar hopper. Don't think I'll be to far behind but no way will I get there before you. Please share your dyno results when you get to that point.
 
Larry, sure will, but a dyno isn't a real priority as I did this for me and not the numbers. And thanks for the research nomad I may put that new belt on when I change my tire.
 

Big Ron

Well-Known Member
Well I picked up my bike yesterday and it's a huge improvement from the original state. Pretty much the neck snapper I was looking for. I'll post the changes that took place but I need to get 500 miles on it to really let it rip and give you a seat of the pants report. The ignition, pipes, and carb were previously done so I'll just give you the basic motor work.
Cylinders were shortened by .045 (which means -.045 from where they were so actual finish length may differ)
Positive deck by .010 (piston above cylinder)
.010 base gaskets and .030 head gaskets.
Woods 9F cam installed with new bearing (.650 lift .256 duration)
Travel limiters installed due to fast ramp of cam
Tappet blocks clearanced as well.
Cylinders re honed with new rings
Manley .650 high lift springs with custom lower spring collars.
spring seats machined/complete valve job
heads cc'd (90.8)
some combustion chamber modifications/other headwork
intake manifold machined .035 off per side due to cylinder length reduction
static compression set at 10.8:1
aggressive timing curve set with crane HI-4 28 deg. BTDC and rear cyl. @0
rejetted carb (set a little fat for break in) 82 main 33 int.
So, is that about as far as you can go and still run pump gas?
 
So, is that about as far as you can go and still run pump gas?
Compression wise I would think so, unless you want to carry a bottle of octane boost around. But there are many other possibilities. Could start chasing the bore size, buy a 124 crank and increase stroke. etc, etc, Should also note that if you don't like a little valve train noise then this cam may not be up your alley.
 

Gas Man

Cool isn't cheap
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Larry, sure will, but a dyno isn't a real priority as I did this for me and not the numbers. And thanks for the research nomad I may put that new belt on when I change my tire.
I know a good dyno for tuning... but you know how the numbers game is...
 
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