voltage regulator/ehc

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armad

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I have been reading this forum about the voltage regulator problems. Are there any year/models that don't have voltage regulator problems?I have a 2008 Mutt with 2500 mi. and the voltage regulator appears to have taken a dump. I have 30-60v ac out of the stator, but no increase in voltage at the battery. I have checked the wire from the vr to the bat and it seems to be good. I could not find a fuse anywhere along the wire route from the v/r to the battery. All I found is what looks like a terminal strip under the seat, that the wire from the vr connects to, and then the other side of the terminal strip goes to the positive side of the battery. A new regulator costs about $150 bucks. I am debating wether I should haul the bike 150 mi. and have the dealer fix it under warranty, or spring for the 150 and put it in myself. Anyone using an after market or Harley vr? What is the ehc and what is its function. I need a service manual. I have owned this bike less than a week and I may be regretting buying it.
 

Eric

Banned
that terminal block is a circuit breaker look for a reset button on it see if it has triped.. just press the button.. it may be facing the bottom...
 

armad

Active Member
Thanks for the info. I found the little button and it was on the bottom as you said. I have continuity through the breaker, so that is good. Seems to keep pointing to the vr.
 

armad

Active Member
It is still under warranty, but I have to haul it 150 mi to the dealer. I just don't trust dealers. I may buy one and put it in myself, rather than haul it. I have a red light on a little circuit board under the seat when the bike is running. I am not sure if that is the ehc, or what it is. I am going to buy a service manual.
 

DRBarnhart

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You could try this just to be sure...

Tip of the Week #4
Here is an easy way to test the Voltage regulator on a 2005-2009 if you suspect it is bad. For this test the wire to the battery will be called B+, the two pins out of the stator plug will be called Pin 1 & Pin 2, case will be ground.

1. Disconnect the ground cable from the battery.

2. remove the B+ wire from the circuit breaker.

3. Attach an ohm meter between B+ and ground (by the way the case is clear anodized therefore when measuring ground you need to measure it at the bolts). The resistance should be over 2meg Ohms, or an open circuit depending on your meter.

4. Measure resistance between B+ and Pin 1 or B+ and Pin 2. There should be great than 1megohm, or an open circuit depending on your meter.

5. Measure resistance between Pin 1 and Pin 2. There should be more than 1megohm.

6. Measure resistance between Pin 1 and ground and then Pin 2 and ground. should be greater than 1megohm.

If any of these values are less than specified you have a bad voltage regulator. This is a good test to confirm that it is bad however there has been one time that I did this test, everything measured fine but the VR was still bad. So what this means is if you are less than specified resistance you definitely have a bad VR. If you are not less you may still have a bad VR but should double check the rest of the system before you spend money for a new VR.

Tip #4 cont.

Testing the Stator.

Let me preface this be saying you need to be extremely careful when performing the AC voltage check. It should not kill you but it is sure to scare the shit out of you of you let the probes touch each other or ground and will probably damage your meter and probes. Perform this test before the beer.

To test the stator start with a resistance test.

1. Remove the VR plug from the stator.

2. Measure the resistance across both pins of the stator plug. The resistance should be 0.5ohms or less, usually it is zero on most meters. Do not forget to subtract the resistance of your meter leads. If it is an open circuit the stator windings are damaged and the stator needs to be replaced.

3. Measure resistance from Pin 1 (either Pin) to ground and then from Pin 2 to ground. It should be an open circuit in both cases. If it is not then that means the windings are shorted to ground and the stator is bad, the plug may be damage or the rotor has interfered with the wires. Remove outer primary and rotor to inspect stator.

4. If stator passes resistance check you can check the output voltage. Again BE CAREFUL!!:angry: remove the vR/Stator plug. Start the bike, measure AC voltage across the to stator pins. At idle you will have around 15-20VAC, the voltage will increase as the RPM is increased. The voltage can go up to about 60VAC or more at high RPM. Have a buddy help you run the throttle, keep you eyes on the probes and do not let them touch each other or ground. If you see voltage as indicated below the stator is functioning.

Don't forget to plug your VR back into the stator plug when your testing is done. I can admit it, I made that jr mistake and was left stranded on a prototype fuel injected bike :confused:
Dennis
 

V

Guru
there is one red light on the EHC that will be on when the bike is running and will start to flash as you rev it up. Thats proper according to Big Dog. I questioned this back in 08 and they confirmed this to me.

If you're gettin voltage from the stator, did you test for voltage at the circuit breaker. Both terminals?
 

armad

Active Member
Thanks for the info. I did the voltage out of the stator(approx 30-60vac). I checked the ckt brkr and it tested good. I also checked for charging voltage (approx 14vdc) and the voltage does not change at all. Stays in the 12.Xvdc area. I wonder if there are any after market regulators that fit the 08 Mutt. The regulator on the bike is made by some vendor, I just don"t know which one.
 

V

Guru
I believe a couple of folks have put a Harley regulator on. I'm not sure which one though maybe they will post up>
 

Raywood

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Thanks for the info. I did the voltage out of the stator(approx 30-60vac). I checked the ckt brkr and it tested good. I also checked for charging voltage (approx 14vdc) and the voltage does not change at all. Stays in the 12.Xvdc area. I wonder if there are any after market regulators that fit the 08 Mutt. The regulator on the bike is made by some vendor, I just don"t know which one.
You're whole bike is after market parts. A Compu-Fire will work too. :D
 

armad

Active Member
What amps is our regulator? Do you know who the vendor is for bdm voltage regulators?
 
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