Tranny Help.....

nthery520

Member
Went thru the gears today and it came out of 4th on its own. Pulled the clutch in after it hit redline and coasted a bit looking back because i thought my belt snapped. Let the clutch back out and it was fine. Rode the rest of the day with no problems but never really got back in it. Should i take top cover off and inspect or drain oil and look for flakes?.........:confused:
 

HMAN

I just like my Freedom
Went thru the gears today and it came out of 4th on its own. Pulled the clutch in after it hit redline and coasted a bit looking back because i thought my belt snapped. Let the clutch back out and it was fine. Rode the rest of the day with no problems but never really got back in it. Should i take top cover off and inspect or drain oil and look for flakes?.........:confused:
Probably worth a look just for peace of mind....
 

Bobby Schulz

Active Member
If the shift fork did not move the slide gear all the way over into the next position it can pop out of gear.

Never hurts to change the fluid, check for metal ,and remove the inspection cover just to check the shift forks.
 

nthery520

Member
Well the cover is off and all gears look fine and feels smooth when i shift thru them by hand. Redline shit doesnt help visibility any. What am i exactly looking for as far as the shift forks? Thanks again
 

Bobby Schulz

Active Member
Just look to see if the forks are bent...Kinda like at a cheap resturant ;)
You will just need to remove the shift drum to see them all easy.
 

wyatt580

Well-Known Member
Here's the guy's I'm having do my tranny. Shaving the gears and putting some more degree's on the dogs. Shouldn't pop out of gears now or blow...

Home - R&D Motorsports

Good Luck

Tommy
they sound impressive but what can they do to keep from blowing tranny up??? short of realiagn to put torgue box in..talkin comparitively cost wise... put some good upgrades in motor and dont think tranny will hold up..thinkin proactive and sell tranny while still good and put toward better [torque box] or upgrade....inquiring minds want ta know.... thanxx tommy
 

Five Five

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If the shift fork did not move the slide gear all the way over into the next position it can pop out of gear.and remove the inspection cover just to check the shift forks.
X-2 on the advice ... Bobby knows his shit and it would be the route I would take .... Lets see what Vince81 has to say
 

tommy666

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Wyatt,
I'm @ wit's end. Neil in Tennessee turned me on to the idea of up-grading the gears and dogs and I called Baker. They didn't have any parts nor would they mfg anything for me. However, they did mention R&D. I'm dropping about 9 bones to get the macheen on the road. I'm thinking about another 3-4 weeks...Not happy but, wtf...
 

Bobby Schulz

Active Member
The gears are not really the problem with the trans IMO. The gears are plenty strong enough for more power....
The weak spots are really in that the input shaft has quite a bit of flex to it, due to the fact it is hollow to allow the clutch push rod to pass through, and not very thick. When you consider the flex of the input shaft and thin cross section it will twist and break given enough power/torque. Then add to that there is not a real way to control the thrust side load in the DSSC trans other than the small annular bearing...

The input shaft bearing takes the pulling load of the engine in one direction, the weight of the clutch and carrier hanging on it, the shaft being pushed in another direction as the helical cut gears side load, plus the added stress of flexing making it a complex problem. I have also seen the splines sheer off the input shaft, or twist given the shaft does not break first.

Taking metal away from a 90 degree edge can make a part stronger by giving it a larger radius instead of a sharp stress point at the 90. Same idea as what I have done to the crank in my 598ci big block chevy and also very common in the race automatic transmissions I build. It has to be taken away at a proper cut and angle.

The problem is the input shaft bearings are not going to handle the side loading of big HP and there is not enough "meat" on the input shaft for any large HP gains in that trans...It just will not take it long if ridden hard. IMO cutting of the dogs (that have plenty of room as is) only allow the gear to slam into position harder shocking the shaft as well as the bearings, much like a neutral drop we all did as a teenager just making the problem worse.

Best things to do for the DSSC transmission is good quality bearings, making sure the radius cut , and heat treating have been done to the input shaft.
 
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