I have the Paul Yaffe Phantoms, before i recieved them i made my mind up to sell my Vance and Hines.I installed them fired up the bike and decided not to sell my V&H's.I havent rode it yet with the phantoms because my tins are on the floor,but i think it looks a hell of alot better,took a little getting use to seeing the shorter pipe on my bike. So far everyone who has come over thinks the Yaffe Phantoms look way better.I dont have to rev it too much to see the flames shoot out the pipe,maybe i need to tune it. Thats gonna wait till i get my tins put back on.Good luck, if you have money burning a hole in your pocket and you like to gamble get them.After all that rambling i like mine i think, still not for sure.My wife bought mine for me as a birthday present after me drooling over them for a year and after $1000.00 they aint going on the garage wall. :roll::roll:Atleast i havent seen any other bikes around here with the Phantoms,every other bike i see these days has the V&H's and all who know me know i like to be diffrent.Feels good to be diffrent,rambling again sorry.Good luck either one is a cool pipe:up:OMG i HATE to see the day others around here get the Phantoms..