Paint bubbleing up at the gas cap opening

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goofy

Active Member
BBD, there's another thread on this under "show & shine, paint warranty".
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably just have a local airbrush person touch it up. I got a different tank back and the paint is ALMOST the same. If you have a mono-color, that won't matter.
Also it took two send-offs and the bike was out of commission for 2 1/2 months....
Big Dog DID stand behind the warranty and I like that!
 

airbrush-ed

kustompaintbyed.com
Hi Scubaman, yeah I'm still kickin'. I was kinda out of commission for awhile. Kinda had my legs kicked out from under me. After BDM laid me off, I thought we were moving to the Houston area (Conroe), so at the time I wasn't worried about a job. I already had one promised to me. Then a week before we're supposed to move, the guy that owned the shop (lets call him MF) stopped returning my calls, e-mails, and messages. He wouldn't even man-up enough to tell me the deal was off! MF. So after we unpacked the garage of all the boxes, I got set up to paint at home. Now I'm just tryin' to get my name out there. Whew, sorry to rant. LOL
 

scubaman15

Well-Known Member
I'm having my softtail repainted hears his responce to the "JB weldtrick" Hi Ron,

Paint savers which use glue, like JB weld often cause more problems then they solve.

The real trick is to use the correct primer to the steel for the job in the first place. This eludes the body-shop trained tech as body shops go for the cheapest material much like any contractor does when building. Some paint savers which use a rubber seal do work, but most which rely on silicone or epoxy fail in just a couple of years. Honda and Yamaha often use the epoxy primer in local areas, meaning just around the points where fuel enters or leaves the tank. In this case where your tank is already painted, this is how your tank will be repaired.

Motorcycle paint work is a step past what body shops do, unless they are trained to work in the higher end systems and versed in urethane paints. The correct curing of the paint is really the problem most body shops seem to miss. The best result is to be sure any rubber seal hits steel, and that any fuel tank is epoxy primed. This limits the fuel to a very small amount of primer to attack, where using glues expands the porous area, allowing fuel to sit and lift the paint.



The other issue is the clear itself, and the chemistry used. We have moved toward using clear products which use little or no reducer. This provides a very hard quick cure. More often then not, we also use bonder clear before the urethane clear to ensure lifting cannot happen. Most paint manufactures insist on high solid clears, but they tend to have trouble with becoming hard as the reducer becomes trapped, resulting in a soft clear. The idea is to provide a thick clear, which can be polished out to limit surface irregularities. We have trended away from this and rather limit clear to two coats at a time, wet-sand and re-clear if the artwork is an issue. This ensures the reducer escapes properly, and ends up being able to resist gasoline spill and vapor problems. No clear is impervious to gasoline on a long term basis, and it is important to be sure the tank vents properly. Many aftermarket tanks (like choppers often have) rely completely on the fuel cap vent. This does cause problems. The recessed bung and flush cap system is one that is prone to issues of fuel vapor. There is no place to hide any kind of JB weld as the leading edge of the paint ends exactly where the fuel bung is set. After 25 years of working with the problems I have seen all kinds of attempts to avoid using the correct epoxy primer products, correct sand blasting and masking needed. None of them work. Our product research aims at a minimum of ten years and our warranty is for one full year.



We just do it right, and sleep much better. You will too.



Thanks,

John
 

BWG56

Guru
Malange, Good to hear BDM stepped up. Blackdog Cycles says it has to go back to BDM for re-painting. Maybe they will up grade the cap style for me also and I can relax on this ever happening again. Thanks for the info. Thanks to Kickstart as well for chiming in. Good info all the way around.
BigBlue, BDM will take of it, just make sure Mike makes note of it if your going to wait on having it fixed. I just had mine redone on my 07 Mastiff and the paint matched perfectly and they added a tank liner and a new bung and clicker cap, no charge. It took 5-6weeks for them to do mine.
 
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