Marky-Marc
Well-Known Member
Has anyone run nitrogen in their Big Dog tires instead of air? What was your experience?
Nitrogen VS. Air in tires....
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Mikeinjersey
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My only experience with nitrogen is in my cars. I buy my tires at Costco and they use nitrogen and refill if needed no charge. I can't say I've noticed any performance benefits except maybe they don't loose nitrogen as quickly as air would.
Yes, You Should Put Nitrogen in Your Car Tires Instead of Air — Here's Why
There are several compelling reasons to use pure nitrogen in tires, but it’s not a must-have.
No nitrogen experience, but more using plain air. Neighbor moved and gave me a few books on thermodynamics. I can't make change from a dollar so the math is a language I cannot grasp, but I work at the abstract. So the basics say something like; you have a BTU at said number and heat said object. The object comes to a certain heat point and stabilizes... is what I gather as heating something cold-expands-cools back to cold is know all the variables using said math formulas without lighting a BTU.
Racing wise, I took care of the air pressures that were told to me. What is to be chased pressure wise is to cause the rubber to show a ripple effect like a lake with a soft wind over the water. It would come in with round gumballs stuck to it. That's not what you're after. So the tire pressure was changed and sure enough, the bike came back with the ocean sand showing that same ripple pattern, no gumballs.
And then we are saying a morning practice v. late race day... you're up... and that air-temp-to-ground temp-to-all those variables. So the nitrogen is more stable at temps to heat expansion v. how much water did we add to expand using plain old air of that day/temp/cloud-over/sunny day?
Your tea is ready.
Jersey Big Mike
100K mile club
that's exactly what it is suppose to do.
For free it's ok, paying for it is not worth it.
Both still loose pressure, albeit nitrogen tires https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...n-car-tires/&usg=AOvVaw2Jou9RFw7IJOUPDNg2STko
the percentage isn't worth $$
Mr. Wright
Knows some things
I ran into this about 25 years ago at an automotive trade show. The booth next to us was promoting this. Their take on it was, that running nitrogen, the tires would maintain t pressure longer, because the molecules were larger.
Jersey Big Mike
100K mile club
Actually race teams do use it.
I think it just holds air pressure better with large temperature changes.
Ding-Ding-Ding... we have a winner, chicken dinner.
Do they fill airplane tires with nitrogen?
Do they fill airplane tires with nitrogen? : Aircraft tires are filled with nitrogen because nitrogen gas is mostly inert, meaning that it requires more energy to react with other substances. This is important because at elevated temperatures, oxygen can react with rubber. Oxidized rubber is...
jetlinemarvel.net
Inert gas
An inert gas is a gas that does not undergo chemical reactions under a set of given conditions. The noble gases often do not react with many substances and were historically referred to as the inert gases. Inert gases are used generally to avoid unwanted chemical reactions degrading a sample.Wikipedia
As I pull the drawer out of the gotta have the basics in the toolbox; or why pick up the air gauge in the first place... 'Magnetism: You cannot separate heat from the chemical reaction'... answers that kind of shit for me.
A good thread, Mr. Marky... raised glass, and a butt rise for this one, I expelled gas onto my computer chair.... degrading I know.
Jersey James
Jersey James
My experience with nitrogen. Years ago there was a motorcycle shop approximately 40 miles north of here. They ran a $30.00 special, which included the complete evacuation of the old air, and a refill of nitrogen. Plus a once a month top off (if needed) for a year. I found that with with nitrogen, my tire pressure would only drop one or two pounds a month or more, just a little bit better than regular pump air. After my year was up, I just returned to regular air, and never looked back, not worth the hassle.
sounds kinda like the thread that was started years back that had everybody in an uproar about making sure you changed out your summer air for winter air in the fall and then change it back when springtime rolled around.
chubs
Guru
The point about nitrogen holding pressure better than straight atmospheric air, that we all breath, could be due to the fact that regular air also contains a tiny percentage of those "noble gasses". Helium filled tires would lose pressure a lot faster than straight air just like a helium filled balloon goes flat faster than an air filled balloon. It'd be interesting to experiment with tires filled with straight helium, argon ,nitrogen, or even Freon. or propane, just to see what happens. I'm gonna stick with the air that comes outta my shop air compressor.
Jersey Big Mike
100K mile club
Propane -- NO WAY -- got enough explosive material on the bike now -- can't imagine a blow out with a flameable gas!
Pure Nitrogen holds marginally better for normal use.
For high performance use it can help eliminate water (condensation) that is in the air and can make more of a change when racing and tires are really hot.
And don't forget while we are at it as it is going to be riding season soon -- Change your blinker fluid (in the cars too)
john sachs
Well-Known Member
Using nitrogen? It's the same as pissing in the wind. $$.
John
John
chubs
Guru
Man, I'm sure glad you reminded me about the blinker fluid change. I went straight down to the local NAPA store to get some. The guy behind the counter kinda giggled when I asked for it, and said he would get it right away. He disappeared into the back of the store and then came back with a clear bottle with some clear liquid in it. He said to just pour it slowly over my turn signals and allow it seep in. He also said that if I get real thirsty, I could actually drink it. He said that he even has washed his face with it! He claimed that it has some miracle chemical called "Dihydrogen monoxide" in it. He must have read the thread about nitrogen in the tires, cause he said I should take my car over to K Mart and have them check my tires for the proper concentration of nitrogen. Even with the extra information about my tires, he only charged me $ 17.89 for the blinker fluid, and threw in the bottle for free. I think I'm gonna do all my shopping at NAPA in the future! While I'm on here, Would anybody happen to know where there might be a bridge for sale ??
Jersey Big Mike
100K mile club
Aha, Jwooky has confirmed what we thought all along -- He has admitted he's full of hot air apparently!
Plain air - Accelerates the decomposing of material. Can boil the air and expands air pressure. Escapes easier.
Nitrogen - Is a more stable [gas] pressure wise when heat is introduced. Pressure loss is minimal [inert] wise.
Dihydrogen monoxide - Safe for bulb and butt washing.
Nitrogen - Is a more stable [gas] pressure wise when heat is introduced. Pressure loss is minimal [inert] wise.
Dihydrogen monoxide - Safe for bulb and butt washing.