At 8:00 A.M. Friday the wife and I will be leaving on a trip out West . We plan on going on as much of route 66 as possible & a short side trip to Vagas for my Daughter's wedding then off to the west coast to ride hy. 1 . No not taking the BD it still in about 1000 pieces . I will be riding my Road Glide & she her Electra Glide we will be on the road 17 days . Now for the question If I look at my CCW Map I can carry my .45 in Iowa ,Mo,OK,Tx, Az& UT but what are the laws in new Mexico & Nevada for an out of state guy? Just cant carry ?
CCW & taking a trip
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I have my CCW that's good in a bunch of states but NOT NV or NB. What you can do is get one of those small combo lock boxes and keep it in there and then the box in your console. If you get pulled over, just be cool, if they ask if you have any weapons say no. If you do get searched for some stupid reason he's gonna need a warrant, the warrant is for your car NOT the lock box and since it's IN a lock box you CAN say you don't have a weapon. He won't be able to get a warrant for the box, so don't worry about it. This is the legal way to travel through states that don't allow CC.
Roaddawg
Well-Known Member
From a law enforcement stance: If you possess a ccw from your home state and you are travelling through another, most officers will not bother you. Realistically, if you possess a ccw, then your weapon should be concealed so that it would not be an issue anyhow.
If you want to take it a step further, as previously stated, a small locked container holding the empty pistol (simply remove the loaded magazine and clear the chamber) and put this in your saddlebags, T-bag or whatever means of storage you have, will further indicate your intention to comply(many states recognize this as the proper means of transporting a firearm through the state where you are not a resident).
There is no "need" to inform an officer that you are armed on initial contact. If for some reason he is patting you down, then inform him that you are carrying, where it is, and what type of weapon it is. Do it calmly and allow the officer to remove the weapon, DO NOT attempt to remove it yourself unless directed to do so.
Lawfully and practiced nationally, a law enforcement officer can conduct a "pat-down" frisk of any person(s) he is in contact with or search the immediate area (where a person may have access to)(Terry v. Ohio) if he feels it is necessary. This does not require a warrant or permission. Typically this is only done when circumstances are outside of a routine contact (your actions, comments, etc. are threatening or aggressive or the officer becomes suspicious of your answers and may believe you have or are committing some type of offense).
In addition, there are circumstances where you or your vehicle (MC in this case) can be lawfully searched without a warrant. The most recognized and utilized is pursuant to policy under inventory guidelines. For example, you are arrested (for DWI, operating w/o a license, drugs, whatever) on your motorcycle. If the police elect to tow or impound your motorcycle (car), they can lawfully conduct an inventory search. This policy protects the department against claims of "I had $20,000 in cash stowed in the trunk of my '72 pinto". The one area where they would need a warrant is if they located a locked container (box, briefcase, etc.). Then the police would have to seek a search warrant which would require them to articulate their probable cause of a crime and that evidence of the crime may be concealed in the locked item. For example, if you were arrested on possession of narcotics, it would be fairly easy to articulate that additional narcotics, proceeds ($$) or records or evidence of the crime might be contained in the locked container. However, If you were stopped for theft of hand tool from Home Depot (say a drill), then a warrant would be denied as the drill could not fit in a small (say handgun) size compartment.
All in all, if you are going to carry, just do so responsibly. Don't give law enforcement a reason to stop or frisk you. Then there is no problems whatsoever.
If you want to take it a step further, as previously stated, a small locked container holding the empty pistol (simply remove the loaded magazine and clear the chamber) and put this in your saddlebags, T-bag or whatever means of storage you have, will further indicate your intention to comply(many states recognize this as the proper means of transporting a firearm through the state where you are not a resident).
There is no "need" to inform an officer that you are armed on initial contact. If for some reason he is patting you down, then inform him that you are carrying, where it is, and what type of weapon it is. Do it calmly and allow the officer to remove the weapon, DO NOT attempt to remove it yourself unless directed to do so.
Lawfully and practiced nationally, a law enforcement officer can conduct a "pat-down" frisk of any person(s) he is in contact with or search the immediate area (where a person may have access to)(Terry v. Ohio) if he feels it is necessary. This does not require a warrant or permission. Typically this is only done when circumstances are outside of a routine contact (your actions, comments, etc. are threatening or aggressive or the officer becomes suspicious of your answers and may believe you have or are committing some type of offense).
In addition, there are circumstances where you or your vehicle (MC in this case) can be lawfully searched without a warrant. The most recognized and utilized is pursuant to policy under inventory guidelines. For example, you are arrested (for DWI, operating w/o a license, drugs, whatever) on your motorcycle. If the police elect to tow or impound your motorcycle (car), they can lawfully conduct an inventory search. This policy protects the department against claims of "I had $20,000 in cash stowed in the trunk of my '72 pinto". The one area where they would need a warrant is if they located a locked container (box, briefcase, etc.). Then the police would have to seek a search warrant which would require them to articulate their probable cause of a crime and that evidence of the crime may be concealed in the locked item. For example, if you were arrested on possession of narcotics, it would be fairly easy to articulate that additional narcotics, proceeds ($$) or records or evidence of the crime might be contained in the locked container. However, If you were stopped for theft of hand tool from Home Depot (say a drill), then a warrant would be denied as the drill could not fit in a small (say handgun) size compartment.
All in all, if you are going to carry, just do so responsibly. Don't give law enforcement a reason to stop or frisk you. Then there is no problems whatsoever.
alhall88
UAW
Just for the record CCW is a crime, What you have is a CPL.
alhall88
UAW
CCW=carrying concealed weapon
CPL= concealed pistol license
BrianLo
Active Member
Varies by state, in Texas it's a 'Concealed Handgun License' and comes in 2 versions: NSA (not semi-automatic) and SA (semi-automatic). So if you take the class and test with a revolver, you can't carry a semi-automatic; otherwise you can carry anything that's considered a handgun and is concealable.
alhall88
UAW
Also the CPL is attached to any of the vehicles that are in your name. My poor daughter was pulled over and they made her step out and go to the back of the car because in michigan it is against the law to not inform the officer that you have a CPL. The car is in my wifes name who also has a CPL. Now we tell my daughter to let a officer know that this car is in her mothers name.
