By Alexey!!! attention!!!I need your help!!!

Alexey

Alexey

Active Member
Dear brothers help me understand! I adjust the pushrods, watched the video and photos on the forum, but I can not understand how to determine the zero point, how many turns from it do for pushrod. Before adjusting or after adjustment should drain tappet? I am worried about light tapping from under the rocker cover. I think it is necessary to increase the length of the pushrod. How to do it? Please explain in detail and clearly. I can not exactly translate the manual and I'm afraid to make a mistake. I beg you to help. It is very difficult to find a specialist in Russia:bang:
 
KaptinAmerika

KaptinAmerika

Guru
Открыть Шатун крышки.
Удалить свечи зажигания.
Положите цилиндр вы регулируете в верхней мертвой точке на такте сжатия.
Легко определить, как этоход поршня , что вы будете чувствовать себя воздушный удар из цилиндра .
Ослабить контргайку на толкателей .
Положите различимый отпечаток на толкателей их регулировочной гайкой .
Сократите толкатель , пока не будетнебольшое количество игру снимите играть, пока вы просто не чувствовать себя немного затянулся стержня.
Увеличьте впускной толкатель , пока вы не оказалосьШатун 4 полных оборота .
Повторите описанную выше процедуру на выпускном толкателя .
Пусть обе кровоточат вниз в течение как минимум 10 минут.
Теперь сократить толкатель , пока вы не можете просто начать свою очередь, стержень с большим и указательным пальцами , но все еще чувствую некоторую сопротивление на стержне ..
Теперь сократитьШатун один полный оборот .
Используйте три гаечных ключа затяните контргайку , не давая сдачу настройки.

Повторите описанные выше шаги на другом цилиндре .


Otkryt' Shatun kryshki.
Udalit' svechi zazhiganiya.
Polozhite tsilindr vy reguliruyete v verkhney mertvoy tochke na takte szhatiya.
Legko opredelit', kak eto khod porshnya , chto vy budete chuvstvovat' sebya vozdushnyy udar iz tsilindra .
Oslabit' kontrgayku na tolkateley .
Polozhite razlichimyy otpechatok na tolkateley ikh regulirovochnoy gaykoy .
Sokratite tolkatel' , poka ne budet nebol'shoye kolichestvo igru snimite igrat', poka vy prosto ne chuvstvovat' sebya nemnogo zatyanulsya sterzhnya.
Uvelich'te vpusknoy tolkatel' , poka vy ne okazalos' Shatun 4 polnykh oborota .
Povtorite opisannuyu vyshe protseduru na vypusknom tolkatelya .
Pust' obe krovotochat vniz v techeniye kak minimum 10 minut.
Teper' sokratit' tolkatel' , poka vy ne mozhete prosto nachat' svoyu ochered', sterzhen' s bol'shim i ukazatel'nym pal'tsami , no vse yeshche chuvstvuyu nekotoruyu soprotivleniye na sterzhne ..
Teper' sokratit' Shatun odin polnyy oborot .
Ispol'zuyte tri gayechnykh klyucha zatyanite kontrgayku , ne davaya sdachu nastroyki.

Povtorite opisannyye vyshe
 
TimNY

TimNY

Well-Known Member
Awesome Curtis !
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And your done.
I love the BDB site ! World wide motorcycle enthusiasts.
Where else yould you see directions in Russian .
Alxey
I hope this helps
You can do it man , take your time .
Let us know your progress !
: )
 
chacha

chacha

Chaff Your EHC!!
Calendar Participant
Просто убедитесь, что принять ваше время и пусть толкатель кровоточить вниз так, чтобы толкатель просто движется с пальцами. Если он по-прежнему туго после 20 минут, потом что-то не правильно. Вы можете обнаружить, что четыре полных оборота слишком много. Я нашел три с половиной оборота иногда звучит лучше. Удачи!
 
Alexey

Alexey

Active Member
KaptinAmerika said:
Открыть Шатун крышки.
Удалить свечи зажигания.
Положите цилиндр вы регулируете в верхней мертвой точке на такте сжатия.
Легко определить, как этоход поршня , что вы будете чувствовать себя воздушный удар из цилиндра .
Ослабить контргайку на толкателей .
Положите различимый отпечаток на толкателей их регулировочной гайкой .
Сократите толкатель , пока не будетнебольшое количество игру снимите играть, пока вы просто не чувствовать себя немного затянулся стержня.
Увеличьте впускной толкатель , пока вы не оказалосьШатун 4 полных оборота .
Повторите описанную выше процедуру на выпускном толкателя .
Пусть обе кровоточат вниз в течение как минимум 10 минут.
Теперь сократить толкатель , пока вы не можете просто начать свою очередь, стержень с большим и указательным пальцами , но все еще чувствую некоторую сопротивление на стержне ..
Теперь сократитьШатун один полный оборот .
Используйте три гаечных ключа затяните контргайку , не давая сдачу настройки.

Повторите описанные выше шаги на другом цилиндре .


Otkryt' Shatun kryshki.
Udalit' svechi zazhiganiya.
Polozhite tsilindr vy reguliruyete v verkhney mertvoy tochke na takte szhatiya.
Legko opredelit', kak eto khod porshnya , chto vy budete chuvstvovat' sebya vozdushnyy udar iz tsilindra .
Oslabit' kontrgayku na tolkateley .
Polozhite razlichimyy otpechatok na tolkateley ikh regulirovochnoy gaykoy .
Sokratite tolkatel' , poka ne budet nebol'shoye kolichestvo igru snimite igrat', poka vy prosto ne chuvstvovat' sebya nemnogo zatyanulsya sterzhnya.
Uvelich'te vpusknoy tolkatel' , poka vy ne okazalos' Shatun 4 polnykh oborota .
Povtorite opisannuyu vyshe protseduru na vypusknom tolkatelya .
Pust' obe krovotochat vniz v techeniye kak minimum 10 minut.
Teper' sokratit' tolkatel' , poka vy ne mozhete prosto nachat' svoyu ochered', sterzhen' s bol'shim i ukazatel'nym pal'tsami , no vse yeshche chuvstvuyu nekotoruyu soprotivleniye na sterzhne ..
Teper' sokratit' Shatun odin polnyy oborot .
Ispol'zuyte tri gayechnykh klyucha zatyanite kontrgayku , ne davaya sdachu nastroyki.

Povtorite opisannyye vyshe
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I understood correctly?
Reduce the length of pushrod until until the small gap
Increase the length of the pusher at 4 full turns
To drain the lash
Reduce the length of the pusher until the rod will spin fingers with a slight resistance
Reduce the length of the pusher 1 full turn? Or increase the length of the pusher 1 turn? Or 3 full turns? - I can not understand !?
Tighten the locknut.
 
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pauly

Active Member
Hi Alexej,

I will try to explain it and I know where your confusion comes from.
We do not know if you have limiters in your lifters and what brand push-rods there are in your motor so we will do it the safe way without shortcuts.

piston in cylinder at tdc on compression stroke

we are adjusting the push-rods on the same cylinder

loosen push-rod till you have gap (push-rod does not reach tappet and lifter at the same time)

extend push-rod till you you have no gap but only just so

now extend pus-rod 20 flats of the nut, temporary lock it with the lock nut and wait 10-15 minutes

if you can turn the push-rod after 10-15 minutes with your fingers unlock the lock nut, extend push-rod another 20 flats,temporary lock the lock nut and again wait 10-15minutes.

now you should not be able to turn the push-rod with your fingers (if you can turn it repeat the process again but remember how many flats you have extended the push-rod all together

now you can not turn the push-rod with your fingers and you have extended the push-rod X number of flats

unlock the lock nut and shorten the push-rod counting the flats until you can spin the push-rod with your fingers (temporary lock the lock nut before you try to turn it with your fingers) - the number of flats you counted is Z.

now X-Z=Y Y:2= is the number of flats you have to shorten the push-rod and lock it properly with the locking nut . Your first push-rod is now adjusted.

repeat on the other push-rod on the same cylinder

turn the motor over till you have the other piston at tdc on compression stroke and adjust the remaining two push-rods on that cylinder the same way

Turn your motor over a few more revolutions just to make sure you have not made any mistake adjusting.

Paul.
 
Alexey

Alexey

Active Member
pauly said:
Hi Alexej,

I will try to explain it and I know where your confusion comes from.
We do not know if you have limiters in your lifters and what brand push-rods there are in your motor so we will do it the safe way without shortcuts.

piston in cylinder at tdc on compression stroke

we are adjusting the push-rods on the same cylinder

loosen push-rod till you have gap (push-rod does not reach tappet and lifter at the same time)

extend push-rod till you you have no gap but only just so

now extend pus-rod 20 flats of the nut, temporary lock it with the lock nut and wait 10-15 minutes

if you can turn the push-rod after 10-15 minutes with your fingers unlock the lock nut, extend push-rod another 20 flats,temporary lock the lock nut and again wait 10-15minutes.

now you should not be able to turn the push-rod with your fingers (if you can turn it repeat the process again but remember how many flats you have extended the push-rod all together

now you can not turn the push-rod with your fingers and you have extended the push-rod X number of flats

unlock the lock nut and shorten the push-rod counting the flats until you can spin the push-rod with your fingers (temporary lock the lock nut before you try to turn it with your fingers) - the number of flats you counted is Z.

now X-Z=Y Y:2= is the number of flats you have to shorten the push-rod and lock it properly with the locking nut . Your first push-rod is now adjusted.

repeat on the other push-rod on the same cylinder

turn the motor over till you have the other piston at tdc on compression stroke and adjust the remaining two push-rods on that cylinder the same way

Turn your motor over a few more revolutions just to make sure you have not made any mistake adjusting.

Paul.
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Paul and all who responded thank you. Now I understand what to look for. You helped me a lot. Paul is your formula has given much to understand!
 
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pauly

Active Member
The hydraulic lifter has two measurements that are important to us.
One is the expanded one(full of oil) and the other is contracted one (without any oil) .
We want to set the push-rod in the middle when our motor is cold so the lifter can compensate aether way for error created by heat, expansion etc.

If you have one mark at zero and the other at 300 than you know that the middle is 150 from aether of the marks. This is how they teach you to adjust the push-rods in s&s videos but if you do not know what push-rods you have(different thread pitch-non s&s) and weather or not you have travel limiters in your lifters than you are better of ( I would say you must) adjust your push-rods the way I have explained.

Watch the videos a few times and think!!! You will get it -the penny will drop as they say.
Do not adjust them till you fully understand the procedure.

Regards
Paul.
 
francoblay1

francoblay1

The Spaniard
Alexey, call me by phone.... its easier than it seems BUT once you really understand the mechanics of it... (Ask me how I know)

Just saying......
 
Alexey

Alexey

Active Member
francoblay1 said:
Alexey, call me by phone.... its easier than it seems BUT once you really understand the mechanics of it... (Ask me how I know)

Just saying......
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Franco, I do not know your phone number. And probably will not be able to understand you completely. It is better to come with his family to visit us. I'll show you Moscow, my bike and all the attractions. You can live at my house or hotel. I'll meet, spend around help.
 
Alexey

Alexey

Active Member
pauly said:
Hi Alexej,

I will try to explain it and I know where your confusion comes from.
We do not know if you have limiters in your lifters and what brand push-rods there are in your motor so we will do it the safe way without shortcuts.

piston in cylinder at tdc on compression stroke

we are adjusting the push-rods on the same cylinder

loosen push-rod till you have gap (push-rod does not reach tappet and lifter at the same time)

extend push-rod till you you have no gap but only just so

now extend pus-rod 20 flats of the nut, temporary lock it with the lock nut and wait 10-15 minutes

if you can turn the push-rod after 10-15 minutes with your fingers unlock the lock nut, extend push-rod another 20 flats,temporary lock the lock nut and again wait 10-15minutes.

now you should not be able to turn the push-rod with your fingers (if you can turn it repeat the process again but remember how many flats you have extended the push-rod all together

now you can not turn the push-rod with your fingers and you have extended the push-rod X number of flats

unlock the lock nut and shorten the push-rod counting the flats until you can spin the push-rod with your fingers (temporary lock the lock nut before you try to turn it with your fingers) - the number of flats you counted is Z.

now X-Z=Y Y:2= is the number of flats you have to shorten the push-rod and lock it properly with the locking nut . Your first push-rod is now adjusted.

repeat on the other push-rod on the same cylinder

turn the motor over till you have the other piston at tdc on compression stroke and adjust the remaining two push-rods on that cylinder the same way

Turn your motor over a few more revolutions just to make sure you have not made any mistake adjusting.

Paul.
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Hello Paul. Help please. For TP rokerboks formula x-y=z,z:2=the middle of the range of the tappet is suitable for adjusting the pushrods? I have a motorcycle set TP rokerboks.
 
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pauly

Active Member
Alexey said:
Hello Paul. Help please. For TP rokerboks formula x-y=z,z:2=the middle of the range of the tappet is suitable for adjusting the pushrods? I have a motorcycle set TP rokerboks.
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It is for any v twin setup.Like I said watch the video a couple of times till you understand it all and ask more questions if you're still not sure.

Paul.
 
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