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armad

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I have owned my 2008 Mutt for a couple weeks now. I am doing a lot of servicing on the bike. ie. trans fluid, primary, and oil. I used some Redline shockproof in the trans on recommendation from the forum. The trans on this bike just does not seem right. When I am in the top two or three gears it seems to be lugging if I am not over 3000 rpms. Sixth gear is almost useless. Is the gearing that high/low? in these trans.? I was almost wishing I had the old 4 speed out of my '50 panhead. I looked at Bakers web site and it doesn't look like there are options for other gearing. Has anyone done any changing of gearing, and how is it done? Thanks
 

woodbutcher

Mr. Old Fart member #145
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6th is pretty much for interstate or over 65mph. and around the suburbs, i'm usually in 4th unless it is on open road, then maybe in 5th. cruises best around 2.5k to 2.8k rpm.
 
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oldmutt

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I bought my mutt in January and now it has about 1500 miles on it. I get the same lugging / vibration when under load in 4th and 5th under 3000 rpm. I do not go into 6th till 70 mph. The book says not to go under 2500 rpm in any of the higher gears but I try to keep it higher. Let the dog run free and feel the fresh air.
 

kurtxt

Chopperman
I never use 6th unless interstate 75-80mph.Or wide open long road run,I have seen the yellow lights come on the tach in 6th. Well the speedo pegs at 120 so lets say 140mph + and still pulling,scarry fast....
 

Brew

Troop Supporter
Same here, usually cruise the highway in fifth and on to sixth when hitting 70 or better...:D
 

RAW Blue Rider

Active Member
Patientce!

Might be different with newer models but I suspect not.
My 04 Ridgeback didn't really loosen up until about 5k miles.
At 1500 miles the engine is still really tight and barely broken in.
Around 5k miles I began to be able to run higher gears at lower RPM's without lugging.
Happy Motoring!
RAW:flag:
 

T.Byrd

Well-Known Member
Baker now recommendes Specro Heavy Duty platinum 6 Speed Trans. Oil, instead of the Redline shockproff.
 
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scubaman15

Well-Known Member
I have owned my 2008 Mutt for a couple weeks now. I am doing a lot of servicing on the bike. ie. trans fluid, primary, and oil. I used some Redline shockproof in the trans on recommendation from the forum. The trans on this bike just does not seem right. When I am in the top two or three gears it seems to be lugging if I am not over 3000 rpms. Sixth gear is almost useless. Is the gearing that high/low? in these trans.? I was almost wishing I had the old 4 speed out of my '50 panhead. I looked at Bakers web site and it doesn't look like there are options for other gearing. Has anyone done any changing of gearing, and how is it done? Thanks

My take on this post : The gearing is spot on . Absolutely perfect in fact I can't imagine what's going on with your bike . Like stated My bike is perfectly happy at highway speeds and really anything in between ? From 0 to 100+ Unless someone changed out your pulleys or your motor is not tuned correctly:job: The S&S 117 is happier above 2000rpms but what you describe ??? :confused:
 

KnotSo

Admin
Staff member
05bigwilddog, will we be reading your excellent INTRO soon?:2thumbs:
2005 trans issues, do a SEARCH, lot of discussions on this topic.

As far as the motor, keep the rpm's above 2000 and 2800 rpm is a sweet spot for a lot of riders, 6th gear is for above 70mph.
Break that motor in according to the book and it will take good care of you and a lot of your harley buds will be following you.
 

Fibersnake

Banjo Playing PsychoBilly
Same as most of the others. I do not even think about 6th gear until I know I will be hitting 75 or above. Try to keep the dog running between 2500 and 3000 RPM for most of the time and more to towards the 3k that 2.5k

Follow the break in per the book, do not lug below 2k and best to let her breath.

Has far a tranny fluid, many opinions on that one and some great stuff out there, for me just the basic Revtec and change out ever other oil change. Oil is cheap and good insurance-tend to change out with Mobil 1 V-twin every 2500 miles and the primary and tranny ever second or so, more often if I had it running hot!

Have fun
 

Raywood

The Pirate
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I have owned my 2008 Mutt for a couple weeks now. I am doing a lot of servicing on the bike. ie. trans fluid, primary, and oil. I used some Redline shockproof in the trans on recommendation from the forum. The trans on this bike just does not seem right. When I am in the top two or three gears it seems to be lugging if I am not over 3000 rpms. Sixth gear is almost useless. Is the gearing that high/low? in these trans.? I was almost wishing I had the old 4 speed out of my '50 panhead. I looked at Bakers web site and it doesn't look like there are options for other gearing. Has anyone done any changing of gearing, and how is it done? Thanks
Your owners manual tells you what speeds and RPM to be in for each gear and what MPH you will be at. Sounds like you are really lugging the motor. Your ignition will tell the dealer this also!

:cheers:
 

lee

Well-Known Member
Same as most of the others. I do not even think about 6th gear until I know I will be hitting 75 or above. Try to keep the dog running between 2500 and 3000 RPM for most of the time and more to towards the 3k that 2.5k
totally agree - v-twins are notoriously easy to lug and V-twin riders notorious for lugging them. I would even say higher than 75 for 6th gear but that may just be my personal preference. I very rarely use 6th gear on my bike and I hardly touched it on my recent trip in the States on a Street Glide either. I also wouldn't shift up a gear until 3,500 to 4,000 rpms.
 

Staffy

Active Member
Am going to take a shot - thinking completely out of the box....set the tranny aside for a moment.....
-Check your primary. -chain tension and both "nuts" :lol::lol: clutch and engine.
- Could it be your engine that is missing, causing the "lug" like effect...if so it could be an ignition issue (cutting out around 3K)
- Finally as silly as it sounds, could be your carb - the int-to-main transistion takes place around 2500-3000 rpm. causing some what of staggering effect, if not dialed in correctly.

Hope it helps, else please ignore completly.
 

WRM66

Member
if you got enough motor, it will hit the rev limiter in 6th gear at 169 mph......actually 168.7 according to my Garmin GPS top speed recorder.....My '06 mastiff with a bunch of ponies........
 

BigDogBro1

Made in the USA
These S&S Super Stock engines like the higher RPM's when running. The oil pump works better and it's less beating on the primary. 2500 to 3000 RPM's are better for sustained FLAT cruising in 3rd, 4th & 5th gears. The 6th gear is a 1:1 ratio and should be used around 70MPH+.
 
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nine lives

Active Member
Gets better the more miles, as others have stated engine will run better at low r's after break in. I have 13,000 miles, runs better now then when I had around 5,000.
 

LukeDM

Active Member
totally agree - v-twins are notoriously easy to lug and V-twin riders notorious for lugging them. I would even say higher than 75 for 6th gear but that may just be my personal preference. I very rarely use 6th gear on my bike and I hardly touched it on my recent trip in the States on a Street Glide either. I also wouldn't shift up a gear until 3,500 to 4,000 rpms.
+ 1! :up:
I run 70 miles an hour in 4th! S&S issued a statement that under 2500 RPMS was considered lugging. I cruise about 3000-3500 rpms, unless riding in town, or trying to look particularly cool. :lol: It sounds best about 2500 (to my ear) But it feels the best at 3000. :up:
 

reloaderbmg

OLD DOG
I have owned my 2008 Mutt for a couple weeks now. I am doing a lot of servicing on the bike. ie. trans fluid, primary, and oil. I used some Redline shockproof in the trans on recommendation from the forum. The trans on this bike just does not seem right. When I am in the top two or three gears it seems to be lugging if I am not over 3000 rpms. Sixth gear is almost useless. Is the gearing that high/low? in these trans.? I was almost wishing I had the old 4 speed out of my '50 panhead. I looked at Bakers web site and it doesn't look like there are options for other gearing. Has anyone done any changing of gearing, and how is it done? Thanks
If your looking for a "smooth" engine/bike, you need to wait till aprox. 5.000 miles, [is your engine a little lean]?
 
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