Operating Oil Temp

Energy One

Dragonslave

Active Member
Just wondering what should the average oil temp be on my 107 S&S when fully warmed up?

How much does an oil cooler actually drop the temp by? I always thought they looked cool but they aint cheap! Wondering if it is worth it?
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
I'm not sure on my Big Dog but on my 1996 HD Ultra that Dynoed 90+ HP I installed a Jagg oil cooler. During sturgis 2 yrs ago after a 200 mile riding day my oil temp leaving the engine heading for the cooler was 180*, that's where my temp gauge is plumbed into at.
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
"Cool isn't Cheap" !!!

Now... it all depends on how & where you ride.... I am glad I do have them, in winter I just cover them with specially made leather "gloves". (Those are not mine.... just copied them from another Member)

oil cooler covers.jpg

Oil Collers.jpg
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
image.jpg with out a oil cooler my HD was 220* range, so it cooled my oil 40*. Also I removed my ambient Temp gauge from my dash and plumbed in a oil temp gauge. The thermometer tail is Tee'd in the oil line just when the oil leaves the motor. So I have exact engine oil temp.
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
Later I will try to find the thread about this subject.... there are several members with temp gauges and actual numbers who spoke about it....

For me it has been about the "feel of it".... call me crazy or with a big imagination but I would swear the engine was telling me that it was too hot and it was going to grip.... for me it was about "Peace of Mind".... Spanish summers are HOT... especially cruising on traffic (at no more than 20 Miles/hr.) on the water fronts.... (Too many tourists rubbernecking the chicks!). On an open road its a different story.... I am talking about, easy 40 Celsius up (104 Fahrenheit) average. My motor said thank you!

BTW, I have 2 coolers, if you look closely they are all linked.
 
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liferider

Looking forward to retirement
Oh, try Sturgis on Lazelle St, you basically walk the bike 7-8 blocks later in the week. Can not imagine how Fu@ked up its going to be this year!
 

Th3InfamousI

Administrator
Staff member
Later I will try to find the thread about this subject.... there are several members with temp gauges and actual numbers who spoke about it....

For me it has been about the "feel of it".... call me crazy or with a big imagination but I would swear the engine was telling me that it was too hot and it was going to grip.... for me it was about "Peace of Mind".... Spanish summers are HOT... especially cruising on traffic (at no more than 20 Miles/hr.) on the water fronts.... (Too many tourists rubbernecking the chicks!). On an open road its a different story.... I am talking about, easy 40 Celsius up (104 Fahrenheit) average. My motor said thank you!

BTW, I have 2 coolers, if you look closely they are all linked.
What's wrong with rubber necking the Spanish chicks? 110% sure that would be me! Love me that dark hair and skin
 

liferider

Looking forward to retirement
And I'll tell you something else people do not understand. One of our company's was the distributor for Wisconsin engines. "Large 40-100hp air cooled engines". When a air cooled motor is running the oil and the air cool the motor, plus heat is emitted through the cooling fins. Now when you get stuck in traffic, you loose 1 of the three characters , air. Now here is where people really mess up. They get stuck in crawling traffic and keep starting & killing there bike. Now you have lost two of the three cooling characters, oil and air and you are solely dependent on the fins to displace the heat, which for 5-15 minute will actually raise when a motor is turned off! Wisconsin motors did not have oil coolers, they actually used huge oil pans. So to say oil coolers help, yes they offer 3 factors. (1) extra oil in the system. (2) more cooling fins to disperse heat. (3) air cooled radiator to cool oil down before being returned to the oil tank. And that's all a oil cooler actuall is is a air cooled radiator to disperse heat. In normal operations a S&S motor can dispence the heat the motor generates. When above conditions are a factor 1 oil cooler will help, in extreme conditions 2 is needed. Now for the down side. Engines get hot and cool down. When this happens they actually make condensation inside the motor. So you get water in your oil. Not much but slightly. When your motor heats up to 180*-200* the heat of the oil & motor burn off this fluid. When you have 2 oil coolers and ride in the winter or cooler months you only build heat up to 140*-160* you trap this moisture and it breaks down your oil. That is why I have diverter valves on both bikes. I only open my diverter valve when I know it is either hot riding or I will be in heavy traffic that day. Jagg makes a small manual diverter valve I run.
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
lol, sorry..... couldnt help myself..... hehehe

I was actually was lokking for another pic but came across these ones from my last R&R.
 

BadDawg Bill

Well-Known Member
And I'll tell you something else people do not understand. One of our company's was the distributor for Wisconsin engines. "Large 40-100hp air cooled engines". When a air cooled motor is running the oil and the air cool the motor, plus heat is emitted through the cooling fins. Now when you get stuck in traffic, you loose 1 of the three characters , air. Now here is where people really mess up. They get stuck in crawling traffic and keep starting & killing there bike. Now you have lost two of the three cooling characters, oil and air and you are solely dependent on the fins to displace the heat, which for 5-15 minute will actually raise when a motor is turned off! Wisconsin motors did not have oil coolers, they actually used huge oil pans. So to say oil coolers help, yes they offer 3 factors. (1) extra oil in the system. (2) more cooling fins to disperse heat. (3) air cooled radiator to cool oil down before being returned to the oil tank. And that's all a oil cooler actuall is is a air cooled radiator to disperse heat. In normal operations a S&S motor can dispence the heat the motor generates. When above conditions are a factor 1 oil cooler will help, in extreme conditions 2 is needed. Now for the down side. Engines get hot and cool down. When this happens they actually make condensation inside the motor. So you get water in your oil. Not much but slightly. When your motor heats up to 180*-200* the heat of the oil & motor burn off this fluid. When you have 2 oil coolers and ride in the winter or cooler months you only build heat up to 140*-160* you trap this moisture and it breaks down your oil. That is why I have diverter valves on both bikes. I only open my diverter valve when I know it is either hot riding or I will be in heavy traffic that day. Jagg makes a small manual diverter valve I run.
1+ You need 200* + to burn off the water and contaminants. The oil cooler (2 on the frame) cooled my 107 motor by around 10* sitting and 20* running down the road. If you are going to use a cooler then get a bypass valve and a temp gauge.
 

francoblay1

The Spaniard
Good to know. Still havent decided yet but thought I would start asking to see what I was going to get into.
As I said b4.... do you need them? if not, and if its only for looks you can always attach just the stash tubes (and lines hanging from them, if you like). At the same time you can use them to store a few things in there.
 
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