NO POWER! At All!!!!

[Pero Maldito]

Hey guys i know all of you have a part in this, but I am not out of the woods yet.
I still have to get the battery and hope and pray that it fixes all my problems.

Jeff just gave me some insight as to whats what on my bike to get a little better understanding of what everyone is talking about and referring to.

I just hope my bike starts tomorrow!!!!!!!

Is there anywhere to get these EHC's cheaper?

 

[mobsta]

nope but you do away with it.contact jake.wire plus is around same price but you get rid of that crappie ehc

 

[Buildem]

Its the battery..Its took a Dump...Trust everyone here....

 

[ChopperJeff]

Pero Maldito,

You're most welcome for the info.

I, as I'm sure everyone else here, just want's to see you get this thing fixed and back to riding!

Hopefully it's not your EHC that's taken a dump, and is just a battery issue. That's where I would start, but certainly go thru the service manual and check things out as you feel fit.

My money is on the battery, as others have said.

Please keep us informed, as we all learn from other people's issues, and remedies!

Good luck!

 

[Little-Boo]

Is there anywhere to get these EHC's cheaper?

Well this just happens to be your lucky day Pero Maldito. I have a New still in the wrapper EHC for a 2006 Mastiff that I bought to have as a spare, which I don't need anymore (Wire Plus ) . I paid Nelson $301.00 for it. I will let it go for $250.00 shipped that is the best I can do. :2thumbs:

Carlos

 

[TheDeadOne]

Enough

Get a good battery!!!! I think enough members have said this.

:2thumbs:

Thread #34

WOW I thought I had along with others said to start with your "BATTERY FIRST" They do not last forever, only 2-3 years at the most depending on the state you live and how well you maintain it. Buy yourself a new battery along with a battery tender. It does not have to be a battery tender brand, it can be Drag Specialties ( they are made by battery tender but cost much less, only $30) keep that tender on all the time when your not riding it.
YES a battery does make your bike act like that if it is bad, remember what I wrote before, if your battery is less than 80% or 12.5volt it most likely will not start, it is a safe feature for your starter.
No there are no aftermarket companies making the EHC for your bike unfortunately
Let us know how you make out. Oh also make sure that battery you are buying is 100% charged. They might tell you it is, but you never know, it may have been sitting on their shelf for 6 months.

Thread #36

OK OK OK OK.
I am heading over to Strokers tomorrow morning and getting a "Deca", what they use for replacment on BDM and their customs.

Anything else?

Does anyone have a good lead on cheap EHC's in case that's it?

I just finished reading this whole thread. :loony::crazy::willy_nilly::zzdisappointed::argue::cursin::angry::bang:

You guys held your cool pretty good when put to the test I'd say! :2thumbs:...:lol::lol::lol:

Damn! Talk about a hard head! :lol::lol::lol: j/k brother, but you've got to listen to Pete & Re-Pete when they continuously keep saying: Batt., Batt., Batt., etc....:lol::lol::lol:

As far as anything else needed? Maybe some "hearing aids" or "sign language classes"!

A good lead on a cheap EHC? "No Such Thing"! best bet, Wire-Plus! :2thumbs:

This was a Good One to read! :roll::roll::roll::roll::roll:

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[Pero Maldito]

Little-Boo (Carlos)
I am heading out the door right now to go get a battery (Deca).
I will let you know if I need it. That is an great deal and really do thank you for helping out like that. Please hold on to it as it is now I'm sure the word is out that you have one. I will let you know ASAP as to what happens.

Thanks everyone.
I know i should have received a lot of sh!t for going the long route and note listening to certain things.
But hey, after taking the bike half way apart, I learned a lot. Or just a little, depending how you look at it.

 

[TheDeadOne]

Little-Boo (Carlos)
I am heading out the door right now to go get a battery (Deca).
I will let you know if I need it. That is an great deal and really do thank you for helping out like that. Please hold on to it as it is now I'm sure the word is out that you have one. I will let you know ASAP as to what happens.

Thanks everyone.
I know i should have received a lot of sh!t for going the long route and note listening to certain things.
But hey, after taking the bike half way apart, I learned a lot. Or just a little, depending how you look at it.

:2thumbs: Good Deal!

Now Get That Thing Running Again! :2thumbs:

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[Pero Maldito]

UPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE! UPDATE!

New battery = DEKA!

Strokers always keeps 1 or 2 charging so it was fully charged.
I had them check it before I left = perfect.
I hooked iy up to my battery tender = solid green.
I tested it with my battery charger = full load.

Hooked everything up, turned the key and everything had power. Made sure it wasnt in gear and went to start it.
Motor turned over once and then everything went dead!!!!!!!!!!!!
I tried unhooking everything and wait 5 minutes and try it again (this has been working) but get nothing!
NO POWER AT ALL !!!!!!!!!
I waiting longer and rechecked the battery = all looks good.

Still nothing! No power! No lights! Nothing!

So what now?
What do I do?

EHC????

 

[BikersDream]

EHC. We went over everything else.

 

[TheDeadOne]

EHC. We went over everything else.

Dream,
Are you sure that the pull in solenoid isn't hanging up with bad starter brush contact? These starters are famous for the brushes not sliding in after they get wet a few times.

It sounds like something (bad starter) that has enough current draw is tripping out the EHC.

I swear it sounds like bad brush contacts within the starter causing excessive current and overloading (tripping out) the EHC to me!

But who am I? Just another :loony: bin candidate! :lol:

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[BikersDream]

Dream,
Are you sure that the pull in solenoid isn't hanging up with bad starter brush contact? These starters are famous for the brushes not sliding in after they get wet a few times.

It sounds like something (bad starter) that has enough current draw is tripping out the EHC.

I swear it sounds like bad brush contacts within the starter causing excessive current and overloading (tripping out) the EHC to me!

But who am I? Just another :loony: bin candidate! :lol:

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Could be. Just think after all he and i covered over the phone it’s the EHC. What’s funny is he had nothing till he cleaned the old grease out of the EHC connectors. Still thinking about your idea:read:

 

[TheDeadOne]

Could be. Just think after all he and i covered over the phone it’s the EHC. What’s funny is he had nothing till he cleaned the old grease out of the EHC connectors. Still thinking about your idea:read:

Just thinking out load here.
The headlight (which is constant 5 amps) and the starter hold solenoid (which is momentary, 10 amps) draws the most current through the EHC. Nothing else could possibly trip the main auto-breaker within the EHC due to cranking it, and then "somewhat" reset after it sets for a while. The EHC "might" try an reset, but the starter uses a internal thermal switch to protect it during over current conditions.

Try cranking again and when it shuts down this time disconnect the ground wire on the battery, then reconnect and see if it tries to crank again, then see if everything dies again.
If so I'd look towards the starter causing the overload condition on the EHC. If so, starter brushes can be repaired real easy, but it requires starter disassembly and reassembly.

Hope all this helps. :2thumbs:

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[Little-Boo]

Little-Boo (Carlos)
I am heading out the door right now to go get a battery (Deca).
I will let you know if I need it. That is an great deal and really do thank you for helping out like that. Please hold on to it as it is now I'm sure the word is out that you have one. I will let you know ASAP as to what happens.

Thanks everyone.
I know i should have received a lot of sh!t for going the long route and note listening to certain things.
But hey, after taking the bike half way apart, I learned a lot. Or just a little, depending how you look at it.

I will hold on to it no problem there. You have replaced the battery and still no go. Um mm I would say the EHC is Fried from all them battery booster jumps it took. I would rather push start than jump start (if you have the EHC). It seems to me that the F*%$#@(*% ECH is so sensitive :bang: that it can't take any kind of licking and keep on ticking :lol: But that is just me thinking out loud :argue::bang::loony::lol:

Carlos

 

[RRRUFF]

Looks like its down to the starter or the EHC. I'm still betting on the EHC. Might try checking the bottom of the starter and see if there is alot of oil on it. I mean wet not just greasy. If so then you may have starter problems. One way to help diagnois the starter is to get the battery back charge up and try push starting it. If it cranks and runs then probably the starter. I am still betting on the EHC though.

 

[05chop]

Try this remove the three starter solenoid cover bolts after you disconnect the neg battery cable. There is a plunger and a small spring inside leave the plunger in then saw off the end of a broom stick then reinstall the neg cable to the battery turn key on then push start, run, then push in on the starter plunger with the broom handle.This will force the starter to turn the engine over and start. I did see this though with three guys pushing the bike down a hill the bike would not start kicking it in gear.

 

[Raywood]

POTM

 

[05chop]

POTM ? People on the move!

 

[Pero Maldito]

Hey everyone, had to do some honey do's for a bit, sorry for not getting back to anyone.

Anyways, Like I said, NOW I get no power! At all!

While I was busy, I went a hed and took the battery out again and left it on the tender. I just now put it it back in and hooked everything up - Still No Power!

I have heard some say EHC. But have had no one reporting the same issues.
I heard about lights or blinkers or something freaky happening, but know one has said that their bike is totally dead and shows no sign of power what so ever.
Is there anyone that can relate?

Is this a sure sign of the EHC?

Not sure about the starter thing. How would it cause me to have NO POWER! NOTHING!

 

[BigMike]

did he check the MAXI fuse again maybe it blew some how ? i dont really remember if he has one or the beaker still just thinking it may still be somthing little before 500 for ehc.