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Discussion in 'General' started by bigkelk9, Oct 4, 2017.

  1. Brandon Downey

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    And nice garage btw!
     
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    My bike does that after not being ran for a while. I have put a meter on it and it' a voltage issue as I dont use a tender because i have heard its actually bad for your batteries if you are a regualr rider. They are more meant for those who have winter months they dint ride and whatnot. Bike hasnt been ran in a little over a week and it never fails itll do that .. so im going towards battery issue if ur bike does that every time or compression releases. Before I got mine fixed it did it every time.. so it' one of the two in ur case for sure
     
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    And Kevin is right to a point, they should go back and forth between cylinders for compression of coarse.
     
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    What did you do to fix the rocker box noise?
     
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    Nothing.. still have it.. so the breakdown shows no bushings on the inside of the rocker carrier, that rod is where that noise came from.. that rod is basically chattering back and forth.. more or less rolling and ticking against the bolts. N e ways, I have put less then 300 miles on the bike since the end of October when I put her back together just because of anger and disgust after dropping almost 2k on this for someone to tell me it's good and it's not. I washed the bike yesterday and put about 80 miles on her and she ticked like a grandfather clock on crack, just not good..
     
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    Yeah, s9meone suggested them to me but they will not work for these 117s
     
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    @john sachs recomended them.

    Maybe he will chime in on which ones to get.
     
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    These are the bushings it's in the rocker ARMS...

    If these bushings are worn them the rocker arm shaft can wear too. Get them both. Bring the rocker arms to your buddies because S&S bushings need to be reamed when installed and the reamer is $200 alone.



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    No the rocker lockers are tapered bushings that go inside rocker box bolt holes and take up the gap between the bolt and notch in rocker shaft.
     
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    Not sure why you say that, They are notoriously noisy.

    I have mine out and the shaft bushings are fine, but there is a lot of play between the notch in shaft and the bolt.

    Mine sounds like crap, I can’t stand it.
     
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    Weird forum is causing problems on tapatalk and double posting so I tried to delete.

    How do you know the shaft bushings are fine? Also that could just mean the shaft is worn.

    Lots of guys with lots of miles...60k plus and no lockers. And I can't find any that fit S&S anyways, then all state Harley. Also the issue was really came to life on the twin Cam Harley's and we don't even have that motor. Maybe John will chime in if he is using them on S&S and where to source.

    Take a look at Marky Marks video on this should help explain a little better with a visual. I know this is a TP engine but same is possible with S&S



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    Also note the S&s manual the bushings are in spec between 0.5546" - 0.5559". That's only 13 thousands of an inch!

    That's why I asked how do you know they are in spec? I know I don't trust my calipers to measure that small I got a cheap set.. Haha

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    Idk.. but what I do know is I waisted almost 2k.. I would not recommend the guy that did the work to n e one and now I'm screwed do to unforseen financial circumstances. I mean bike runs great, just a noisy bastard and I'm not cool with that..
     
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    :oldnono: .0013 is not 13 thousands, its 13-10 thousands
     
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    Well good news is shaft and bushings are only about $60 total and if you take it down to your local shop guy have him install the bushings and ream them with the $200 tool your only out about $60 plus whatever be might charge for the bushings gotta be no more than 30 min

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    Haha ..right even worse! I wrote it wrong!! That's cause I was thinking of my cheap ass Harbor freight and it doesn't even measure past thousands of an inch
     
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    Be interesting to hear what John Sachs has to say, I would get a set.
     
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    You have a point, I was simply going by how loose they felt, and my Conversation with John, and also a lot of info out there on the Harley's. They designs of teh rockers are all essentially the same.

    I want to address it while I have mine tore apart.
     
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    :agree::stupid: I was with you..:skep:
     
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