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Discussion in 'EFI Topics' started by chili08k9, Mar 20, 2015.

  1. chili08k9

    chili08k9 I will buy the 1st round

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    I HAVE HEARD THAT NOW THAT BIG DOG IS NO MORE, SOME GUYS HAVE A PROGRAM THAT WILL UNLOCK THE LOCKED EFI MODULE THAT CAME ON OUR BIKES. WHEN YOU ORDER THE NEW MODULE IT IS THE SAME PART NUMBER AS THE ONE I HAVE SO I AM SURE IT CAN BE DONE. SOMEONE HAS TO HAVE THE INSIDE ON THIS..PLEASE HELP. I DONT WANT TO SPEND $678.00 FOR THE SAME UNIT I HAVE ON MY BIKE.. MIKE
     
  2. Jwooky

    Jwooky Well-Known Member

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    Ok first why are you yelling= all CAPS.

    There is not a way unlock the S&S EFI/VFI module.

    You can buy the "off road" unlocked modules though from time to time for a couple hundred.
     
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    francoblay1 The Spaniard

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    I was told it can be unlocked by Matt.
    Weather he'll do it is another question.

    Paul.
     
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    BigDogBro1 Made in the USA

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    If you purchase an UNLOCKED ECM from S&S, make absolutely sure you DO NOT load it with the same EFI map file as what you are currently running or you will LOCK the new box as well.
     
  6. Jwooky

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    Sorry, you might be right... I´ve got not a clue about EFI systems but I thought it could be a good reading for the ones interested in the subject... and link #2 is from S&S itself so...

    Oh well, WTF I know... lol

    :cheers:
     
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    I think I have the hardware part sort of figured out. Software? I'll reversengineer this as I did the hardware.

    It goes something like this. I need to tell the software to work the hardware and find this file. How to find the file is well, I have to start from 0 and work my way back.

    I flash a map alone, no pig like an ss-kit, pwrcomder, squirtitty, or any other type pig that captures data output, the pig grabs that input and renters a number and this sets the duty cycle or how long the injector stays on. How big did you make the jet hole change via electrical time on and time off of the faucet.

    Where are the basics to the software and I'll reset it. /*said his notes as he writes the code and hacks into the basic moves the software is handcuffed to*/ <<<< See this 'comment' in code?

    Matt should scream the basics as if to step on every leg off that timer in the hardware part of it. I have 4 kills off that bike or resets:

    1. Battery post.
    2. Kill switch.
    3. Key switch.
    4. Trigger at the E-box is the same as saying I just touched 4 inputs to RESET to 0000-0000.

    It walks as it talks. I now dumpee basic down the wall was write my name on it here in code.
     
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    francoblay1 The Spaniard

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    I love it!!! long gone those days I could not understand a shit from you... now it all makes sense! :2thumbs:

    :cheers:
     
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    :eek::loony:that was helpful..
     
  11. chili08k9

    chili08k9 I will buy the 1st round

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    can I change to a 585 cam insteAD OF A 600 without a unlocked module????? just a thought
     
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    You can confirm with S&S, but I think that would be fine
     
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    Now, enter the friendly EPA for a second time around. These Adaptive Maps have a limit on them too. The EPA's restrictions are that the Adaptive Maps can only move around 28% from the Base Fuel Map. That sounds like a lot and in some cases it is. But, add more compression and a more aggressive cam to the non-stock exhaust and air cleaner you already have, and the Adaptive Maps will 'Limit Out' and your Check Engine Light will come on. The light is telling you that the engine wants more fuel in a certain area (throttle position/rpm).

    From Neil (Nomad2day) in Tenn:
    "More extensive modifications that change the power output of the engine by more than about 20% require a new base map. I would think that you should be able to do some things to wake up your bike within those parameters and it learn and compensate for it. How big of a cam, I don't know but it would not take much to wake one up and get it off the porch."

    "CLOSED LOOP VFI... can automatically compensate for the following
    modifications as long as the change in horsepower output is less than about 20%. ■ Displacement ■ Cam change* ■ Exhaust change* ■ Head Porting or aftermarket heads ■ Gear ratio * It should be noted that the cam and exhaust system must be appropriate for the displacement, compression ratio, and intended use of the engine. No amount of tuning will entirely correct for a poor cam and exhaust choice."
     
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    Here is the S&S part # for an unlocked module 55-5090
     
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    Hi Ohmster,

    could you please help me to unlock my EFI controller?
    Can I do it myself with your help since I live in Australia or do I have to send it to you?

    Thank you.
    Paul
    Hi Paul,

    Unfortunately you would have to send it to me here at Kansas Motorcycle Works to unlock it. I would be happy to do it. I will talk with Matt Moore and see what we would need to do since your located in Australia. Feel free to call me here in the states at 316-312-3357. Hope to be able to help you out soon.

    Best regards,
    Jason
     
  16. chili08k9

    chili08k9 I will buy the 1st round

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    hey guys its been a few years of running all the stock stuff, can anyone now unlock the S&S module i have. it is the same part number as the unlocked one s&s sells 55-5090. I just moved that stuff in the garage and thought this would be my winter project..thanks mike
     

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