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Discussion in 'Ignition / Electronics / Batteries' started by francoblay1, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. francoblay1

    francoblay1 The Spaniard

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    don't know about the size interchange but #2 is the only one that shows the needed CCA (calls for 310 in the ad.). the more CCA the better.
     
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    Yes, thats the higher CCA I can find :confused:

    I am trying to decide between these two:

    Odyssey:
    680 cranking amps for 5 seconds
    595 cranking amps for 10 seconds
    525 cranking amps for 20 seconds
    Short circuit current over 1800A
    17Ah
    25 minute reserve capacity with 25amp load
    CCA - 220 (Is this important?)
    Female brass terminal w/M6 SS bolt

    Yuasa:
    12 V, 310 Cold Cranking Amps, Top Post, 6.875 in. Length, 3.437 in. Width, 6.125 in. Height,

    I was reading this http://www.odysseybatteries.com/odyssey101.htm#cca about the CCAs... Thats why I am wondering if the Odyssey would be better?

    Cold Cranking Amps: For all the power, durability, and life of our technology, the cca ratings can seem disapointing. That's because the cca ratings are often misunderstood. Odyssey batteries are SLI (starting, lighting and ignition), so if you are looking for a starting or reserve battery the cold cranking numbers can be irrelevant.

    The "standard" cca test measures the output of a battery for 30 seconds of crank at 0 degrees with the ending voltage of the battery being 7.2v. Some companies use 15 or 20 seconds and some companies use 32 degrees which can make for better results.

    A vehicles starter isn't designed to withstand 30 seconds of cranking so we feel the batteries starting power is more important. The Odyssey part numbers represent the 5 second cranking power of the battery.

    The PC680 is rated at 680 amps for 5 seconds, 595 amps for 10 seconds, and 525 amps for 20 seconds. Cranking power is even higher for the first four seconds. Similar sized lead acid batteries are only rated at 180 - 220 amps.


    Thanks for your inputs, I need to make up my mind and order soon, I am going home for R&R in 10 days and I want to have it there when I arrive... plug & ride :D (my old HD battery is dead!!!)

    :cheers:
     
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    woodbutcher Mr. Old Fart member #145
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    that 220 cca is what scares me on that battery. can you not get the same HD battery that you now have?
     
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    Resurrecting an old thread...

    Im looking at the PC680. I believe this is a perfect replacement for my scooter. Am I correct with this, and whats yalls opinion of this battery? It says 170 cca's, but somehow it produces 520 cranking amps for 5 seconds.

    Odyssey PC680 Battery - Free Shipping: BatteryMart.com
     
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    Well for what it's worth I'm running Harley batteries in all my scoots and have had no issues. They've been cranking over my scoots with no problems. Here's the part number if your interested: 65989-97C
     
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    I'm rather shocked you only got 15 months out of the harley battery. The oldest battery I have now is 21 months old and still cranking very strong. Are you sure you don't have a draw taking from your battery or a weak charging system?

    I'm not sure about the battery in your link, I have no history with it. If you do go with it let us know how it performs.
     
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    I was going through a battery once a year. My start button died, so I got a slam button. I read on here to wire the C/R's to the bolt on the solenoid, so I did. I ran the ground to the battery post and she fired up. As time went by, the engine would struggle to get past the initial revolution, then it would spin and start (C/R's worked then & now). More time passed and it kept leaving me stranded, so my wife bought me a jumpstart kit. Used that for a while until I could get it to Jeff. He determined today that the ground wire should not be attached to the battery and as short as possible. He also found that the green wire on the side of the solenoid wasnt necessary to start the bike. Jeff says the draw on the battery because of my ground wiring and the green wire caused the V/R to stay wide open (so to speak) and flood the battery with juice it didnt need. So ultimately I guess I cooked the battery. Jeff said my charging system is fine, just my ground wiring for the C/R's and the green wire on the solenoid. So I get a new battery and negative cable.
     
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    Braille...........:2thumbs::2thumbs::2thumbs:
     
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    I would go with the Braille also........and I still have my original BD battery from 2008 which is used on my generator and could be a backup.
     
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    Wonder who made the factory battery and I agree with ya on the XP-3, sure gives you a good feeling having it:2thumbs:
     
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    X3 on the XP-3 :D :2thumbs:

    :cheers:
     
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    For anyone interested in a Lighting Start battery: I just replaced a Lighting Start,
    it worked great for 13 months, then this summer at 14 months it started to fail, it was
    always on a tender when not riding.
     
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    FWIW, I've been running a Braille 2015 for two years. Not on a tender and never fails to start.
     
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    I talked with an engineer at Odyssey and he told me the Harley battery will perform better in our bikes than theirs, the engineer also told me to leave lights on for 3 or 4 minutes before putting the bike back on the tender.
     
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    What king of Batter?

    This is a good one for fish!

    2 c. flour
    2 tbsp. lemon juice
    1 med. onion, chopped very fine
    1 tbsp. parsley
    1 tsp. onion salt
    2 big handfuls corn flakes, crushed
    1 to 2 cans beer
     
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    I was waiting to see if anyone noticed that.
     

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