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I'm at the border.... wish you were here...

Discussion in 'General' started by Butch Cassidy, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. Butch Cassidy

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    I am a member of the Mountainminutemen.com and we work with the Border Patrol in overwatch of the Mex/USA border. Been here many times.... but this time we will stay until the troops arrive. If you want be here, PM me and I can give you instructions. If you can't be here but wish to help, please donate at the above link. We run our trucks at night to keep the lights on and show our presence... hence the need for gas money. I burn through about a quarter a tank each night, and with gas prices here in CA, it's $4.00 a gallon. We do this on our own time, and our own dime, but donations really help our expenses.
    Thanks. We appreciate the all the help we can get.
     
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    Now that's interesting.
     
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    Good job Butch
     
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    Thank you for your service and dedication on our borders
     
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    Why interfere with those getting paid to do their job. I live on the border or close to it, there are tons of lights, fences, border patrol, State Troopers, National Guardsman, local police and most all of them speak the language (Spanish). I think the presence of volunteers is fine but what can you do without authority. Leave it to those who known what they are doing. Just saying.

    Carlos
     
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    Carlos
    I understand your viewpoint, but we are here at the request of the Border Patrol, and it has been that way since 2013.
     
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    BE SAFE BRO!
     
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    Carlos, if the border is that secure how are they crossing or is it only that secure in some areas? Just curious.
     
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    Butch, do you guys have any authority because the BP requested your presence?
     
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    Our ‘authority’ is only to observe and report. Because of that our presence is a deterrent. Like a rock in the middle of a stream, this area is now secure and the cross-border traffic are going around us. So, the BP are on our flanks doing their thing.
     
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    i was in Organ Pipe NM about 10 years ago. BP all over the place. I was stopped at a checkpoint along route 86 and they put the dog in the rental car while about 5 BPs and 2 Sheriffs questioned me. My story was all over the place as the rental car i had was from Nevada, rented in San Fran and Drove to SanDiego then over to Pheonix. Turns out the dog, a scary looking Malinois smelled my dirty boots in the back of the SUV and was mistaken. The BP laughed and told me it was trained to sniff out human smuggling and Narcotics and said i was lucky it was neither. I was nearly shitting a brick.
    I'd swear every fifth vehicle was a BP and many of the pickups had what i guess was border hoppers in the back. I dont think people realize how fluid the border is down there. Cant imagine how it is now. Parting words from the BP and Sheriff Deps. Dont pick anyone up and lock your shit up cause people who are desperate do desperate things.
     
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    I spent several years working in the SE corner of AZ. Our projects were remote, and the work was performed at night. There were several "encounters" and incidents in the region spanning from Nogales to El Paso, that I or my crew were somehow involved in, from 1998 - 2011. Concrete K-barriers and 5-strand barbed wire T-post fencing comprise a large portion of the border static security for hundreds of miles.
    The big walls and fences typically shown in the media are only in stretches near border-crossing stations. There are of course various layers of protection and sensing, but a lot more goes on, than the general public would even imagine.
     
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    Yea; those guys scare me too. FYI; we have been here at Patriot Point since 2013, a continuous border presence. We will LEAVE when the troops get here. We are only a handful... but we do what we can when we can, all at the behest of the BP since 2013...
    Last night the BP rounded up 150 in this sector, just to the West of our location, and, that’s the plan, always has been. We have NO interaction with the public or the illegals. We park on the high points where we can be seen by the other side of the border, with our lights on all night. We WANT to be seen, like a large rock in a stream. Like I mentioned before, our presence is the deterrence.
    My presence here, since 2014, has just been something I have done when I had the time. But now the push is on to get over before the troops get here, our presence is outspokenly welcome by the BP.
    Additionally, we are on private property with the owner’s permission. The flag pole you see in some of the pics... we put up.
     
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    Good job, I live about 40 min from the border in South Arizona
     
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    Are you familiar with Vekol Valley? Mile marker 141 on I-8 just West of Casa Grande.... known as the heroin hiway.? We also work there... the Sinaloa cartel runs that area. They know us, we know them, and yes, we arm up heavily when we go there. Been shot at quite a few times.. it’s serious business down there. Very rough country. We patrol in the Antelope hills, on foot, where the BP won’t go. There are small ‘caves’ on the South side where the mules wait until it’s time to go to a specific drop point on I-8, and there are 3 of them; drop points that is.
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    I bought a bird feeder. I hung it
    on my back porch and filled it
    with seed. What a beauty of
    a bird feeder it was, as I filled it
    lovingly with seed.
    Within a week we had hundreds of birds
    taking advantage of the
    continuous flow of free and
    easily accessible food.

    But then the birds started
    building nests in the boards
    of the patio, above the table,
    and next to the barbecue.

    Then came the crap. It was
    everywhere: on the patio tile,
    the chairs, the table ...
    everywhere!

    Then some of the birds
    turned mean. They would
    dive bomb me and try to
    peck me even though I had
    fed them out of my own
    pocket.

    And other birds were
    boisterous and loud. They
    sat on the feeder and
    squawked and screamed at
    all hours of the day and night
    and demanded that I fill it
    when it got low on food.

    After a while, I couldn't even
    sit on my own back porch
    anymore. So I took down the
    bird feeder and in three days
    the birds were gone. I cleaned
    up their mess and took down
    the many nests they had built
    all over the patio.

    Soon, the back yard was like
    it used to be ..... quiet, serene....
    and no one demanding their
    rights to a free meal.

    Now let's see......
    Our government gives out
    free food, subsidized housing,
    free medical care and free
    education, and allows anyone
    born here to be an automatic
    citizen.

    Then the illegals came by the
    tens of thousands. Suddenly
    our taxes went up to pay for
    free services; small apartments
    are housing 5 families; you
    have to wait 6 hours to be seen
    by an emergency room doctor;
    Your child's second grade class is
    behind other schools because
    over half the class doesn't speak
    English.

    Corn Flakes now come in a
    bilingual box; I have to
    'press one ' to hear my bank
    talk to me in English, and
    people waving flags other
    than ”ours” are
    squawking and screaming
    in the streets, demanding
    more rights and free liberties.

    Just my opinion, but maybe
    it's time for the government
    to take down the bird feeder.
    So we don't continue cleaning up the crap
     
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    I think the current wall idea is a similar analogy to putting up wire in the eaves of your house so you can clean up the shit on your deck without new birds coming..or at least slowing enough to get it managable.
     
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    Been on the Texas border and the Arizona border down in the South East. Most roads out of Mexico into Texas that I've been on the bike has had a border stop about 50 miles north. Ran down to tombstone, into Bisbee then over to Douglas before catching back on 40. Not a single border stop I was amazed.

    Not to mention, 191 north from Douglas is one of the loneliest roads in America.

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    Yeah the closest checkpoint to me is a little south in Tubac
     

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