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How To: Bandit SuperClutch/Carrier Install

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  1. bdmridgeback

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    Well, Here is the install on the great, Bandit Machineworks Superclutch and Carrier. I am going to show this install starting with the old clutch removed. Removal is real easy as long as you have the correct socket!!!:rolleyes: :bang:


    So here are a few pics of the clutch kit and the Carrier plate to replace that BDM piece of work!


    Here is the New Bandit Carrier

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    Here is the New Bandit Superclutch Complete kit

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    Bandit on left, Stock BDM on the Right

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    A much heavier clutch pack

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    Bandit Machineworks recommends using Amsoil Severe Gear Synthetic gear lube in the primary with their clutch setup. So make sure you grab a quart.


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    Here is where I am beginning this venture, Old clutch out and all clean ready for the install.



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    Here is the Bandit Carrier assembled to the sprocket, with the hub pressed in all in one piece. This is how I picked it up from my dealer after I dropped my stock setup off to them to press the inner hub out of the old and into the new. He went ahead and assembled the whole thing at no charge, wasn't much work.

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    Here I am getting ready to install both sprockets with the chain. The chain needs put on and both sprocket need to be slid on together just like the removal.

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    Now put some red loctite on the from nut and install (torque to 135-150 ft-lbs.) and put just a little red on the clutch nut (incase of needing to remove-can't heat that) and install (torque to 70-80 ft-lbs. remember left handed threads). Slide your chain adjuster back up in under the chain and install nut but don't tighten yet.

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    Here is the messy part of the install. The friction disks need soaked in the gear lube before install. They just need left in the oil for a few seconds, wipe off the excess oil with fingers and install. I got a small throw away plastic pan to pour about 1/2" of oil in to soak.

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    Start the clutch plate install with the thick steel plate first the alternate friction, steel, friction, steel until you have all 14 of each installed with the last plate being a friction plate. Make sure they all slide in freely without anything binding them. Here is what it will look like with all the plates in place:

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    Now if you had your dealer assemble all the other previous parts they should have removed your push rod seat from the BDM bearing and installed it in the bearing in the Bandit pressure plate. They didn't on mine and I had to press it out and reinstall it myself.

    Now install the pressure plate, making sure that the "clock" dimples in the backside of the pressure plate line up with the dimple on the inner hub of the clutch pack. Install the spring cups, springs, and screws with a bit of blue loctite on them and tighten them up.

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    Now back to the chain tensioner. It needs to be pushed up about as hard as you can by hand to get the 5/8" deflection adjustment. I didn't use a prying devise or anything and measured up the deflection and came out perfect by hand.

    The clutch will be adjusted par the instruction with Bandits clutch. But basically it works like this.

    Back off or collapse the cable adjuster completely. Remove the outer shroud cover from the right side of the belt drive cover. Back off the lock nut and turn the adjuster in until it just puts pressure on the pressure plate. Back the adjuster back out 1/2-3/4 of a turn and tighten the lock nut back up, holding the adjuster. Adjust your cable adjuster to produce 1/8" of free play at the hand lever.

    Take a dial indicator and measure how far the pressure plate moves out when you pull the clutch lever all the way in. You need .070 minimum travel or the clutch will drag.

    The last part of the install is to remove some material for clearance on the backside of the outer primary. To the right side of the picture you'll see a big "L" shaped boss with a marker line on it that needs removed to clear the taller clutch pack. I trimmed it off with a cut-off wheel and filed it pretty!! Clean out the cover with some carb cleaner and you are ready to install!

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    Install the new o-ring on your outer primary cover, install (torque bolts to 7-9 ft-lbs.), remember to install your drain plug:rolleyes:. Remove outer inspection plate, clean breather filter, and pour in 1 quart Amsoil Extreme Gear lube and install cover.

    That should cover the complete install, Break in on this clutch depends on riding style, but is between 1000 & 5000 miles:eek: .
    That tells you how long this thing will last!!!
     
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  2. Chopper Dave

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    Good job Jake! :2thumbs: nicely done......glad you got it taken care of......:cheers:
     
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    Tell me more about this pressed out push rod seat...
     
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    Jake did bandit suppy any shims that go behind the hub to get correct alinement for chain?Someone posted on here that he had to do this.Did bandit suppy the throw out bearing? aka (hub bearing).good how too:2thumbs: :2thumbs: 05chop
     
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    Nice job, great pics.

    How much this end up setting you back? :cheers:
     
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    good job Jake - Knotso - Jake has listed all the prices in his other thread on this
     
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    It is the small little seat or cup that the clutch push rod seats against in the pressure plate. It is pressed into the throw out bearing and has a snap ring on the outside of it.
     
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    The BDM Flange hub that the carrier & bearing are pressed onto seat on the shaft like stock. No shims. The throw out bearing is supplied and pressed into the pressure plate from Bandit. The Carrier Bearing can be reused if you can get it pressed out without damage. Isn't worth risking for $48 already pressed in from Bandit.
     
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    I am reposting prices here so you guys don't have to chase around for them:

    Complete Superclutch - $300
    Carrier - $95
    Carrier Bearing & install @ Bandit - $48
    Shipping - $16
    Quart Amsoil Severe Gear Symth. 75W-90 - $12
    O-Ring for primary Case- $12

    Total $483


    Plus ???

    BDM Clutch Hub - $50 (factory damaged the stock one when they installed)
    Next day air for hub - $32
    Shop labor to press hub - $37

    New Total - $602
     
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    there's no reason that Amsoil severe gear oil can't be used in the primary with the stock clutch is there? I think I might get some - looks good
     
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    You know on the other site fat cat told us that the big holes on the back of the carrier were there for cooling.Bandit or rev tec sure made them strong from the pictures. Jake is there an option on selling bandit for the forum from you.just a though! :eek: 05chop
     
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    Hmm... going to have to look closer to my open belt setup which also has a banditt in it.
     
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    That doesn't make sense!!! The primary is enclosed and in an oil bath. About any cooling I could think of would be conduction but doubt you would see any cooling for this.

    ???
     
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    any views on the Amsoil Severe in the stock clutch at 75W-90?
     
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    Bandit does offer different springs, but the kit comes with one set and a bag of spring shims to preload the springs. I didn't use any and the clutch is pretty easy pull and I can feel it locks up better.

    The springs that come in the kit are 280 lb.
     
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    Hey Jake - how did you get the pushrod seat out of the old bearing and into the new? did you need any special tools?
     
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    Lee,
    Just a couple sockets and a hammer to drive them out and back in.
     
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    Thanks Jake
     
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