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4th gear question

Discussion in 'Performance' started by spadesluck, Mar 26, 2013.

  1. spadesluck

    spadesluck Active Member

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    If I am in 4th just cruising and decide to get on it without downshifting it just feels like the bike is not going anywhere. Its tough to explain but when in 1st or 2nd any twist of the throttle is responsive. 4th just feels like a clutch slipping (bandit clutch so its not slipping). The bike does speed up but its not the same responsiveness. Is this normal or to be expected? I believe it only does this when doing a 4th gear pull. Thoughts? :confused:
     
  2. woodbutcher

    woodbutcher Mr. Old Fart member #145
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    cruising at what rpm? should be at least 2500rpm to get any kind of response out of it. might just be lugging it a little.
     
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    I was thinking the same thing, Tom.
     
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    yep ill bet to low rpms...
     
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    woodbutcher Mr. Old Fart member #145
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    1st, 2nd, 3rd, are close ratio so you will have head snapping response but when you get to 4th and up, more for cruising and open road so unless you are upper rpm band, will not respond as quickly.
     
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    When you get on in 4th gear does the rpms come up but the speed doesn't?
     
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    I had this issue as well when I ran ATF in the primary. I switched to primary fluid and it went away.
     
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    I can tell you its not the fluid as I am running what bandit sold me.

    As far as the RPM's go I would bet it happens when around 2500 or so. Yes the speed comes up but its slow. I am probably just overly worried about it. It is more than likely just lugging because of the low RPM's for the gear. I just wanted to bounce it off you guys here first.
     
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    keep the rpm's around 3-3500 and see what happens!!! you should be running around 3k when your crusing!!!
     
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    X2
     
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    I bet that is exactly what it is. I never cruise around town over 3k rpms. I try and keep it around 2.5k.

    I am just acting like an over concerned parent. lol
     
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    My bike is always happiest between 2 and 3K RPM.
     
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    It is NOT a Hog... it is a Dog! 2.5 RPM and up and it is a Happy Dog :D

    :cheers:
     
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    i believe baker actually has a recall bulletin regarding this issue in 4th. something about the snap ring and allowing a bearing to wobble? I will get the bulletin monday if anyone wants to know.
    Same thing is happening with my 05
     
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    That's possible, but I believe it was 2nd gear. I had to rebuild one for a guy, that snapped the teeth off 2nd gear, because it moved. Post it anyway, it will be good info to have.
     
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    Here's what I know 3rd gear is good for 85mph :cheers:
     
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    :eek: what rpm are you at????

    I can cruise at 85 mph on 6th gear @ around 4 K rpm!!!
     
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    I'll take post #5 for $200, Alex.

    The closer I get to top gear, the closer I match a 1 to 1 ratio with the crank. 1st is to leave from a dead stop. 2nd is an all around gear for low speed work an partial mid. At this point I am more concerned about my engine pluses being smooth in the gear selection dept. I want to avoid those that knock, or cause a lugging action that occurs at too high of a gear, too low of an rpm.

    If you want to practice select my gear to rpm, the foot shifting down is entering a plush engagement at an ever so slight change of rpm. The incorrect gear select is when the downshift occurs, the rpm ramps up so fast, the bike slows down just as fast... Can you see/hear that happening?

    The upshift is exactly the same. It has to match a plush engagement and the engine has yet to buck, drop it's nose, buck your arms straight, then no, you are not in control of the gearbox to throttle to smooth engine apply. As corny as it sounds, you have to be 'at one with' the engine/trans/smooth/apply.

    As long as the engine is smooth at any rpm and you apply throttle, no hez, no lag, no buck, you clucking, clogging, cog in a gearbox you. I can't believe it shifts like butter.
     
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    85 in third is max mph in that gear before it hits the rev limiter .Not cruising:up:
     

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