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Old 07-28-2008, 05:40 PM   #1 (permalink)
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K&N air filter for 117

I have a 117 w/ G carb and cannot find / locate a replacement for the existing K&N air filter. The number on the filter does not match or cross
match to any existing K&N product. Anyone help?
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Old 07-28-2008, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have a 117c.i. with an E carb and I understood that the K&N replacement was a E-3226 so I got one and put it on. I am using the stock air cleaner assembly and when I took it apart after using it for about 500 miles I found that it was crushed and had a space at the bottom that unfiltered air passed through.
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Old 07-28-2008, 11:31 PM   #3 (permalink)
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First question is why do you need to replace it. It's designed to be cleaned and re-oiled for ever (or dead which ever occures first!).
Also, you need to ensure that the little tab that sticks out is cut off so that the filter sit properly around the round concaved shape of the inner backing plate.

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Old 07-28-2008, 11:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Raywood is correct about the tab and cleaning them. They also come with some grease that needs to be installed on the ends on the air cleaner to help create a seal on the inner and outer edge of the air cleaner.
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Old 07-29-2008, 01:33 AM   #5 (permalink)
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I also have the G carb and was unable to find a K&N filter to replace the stock paper one. All the dealer could find for the 08 K9 was a drag specialties re-usable one, the one that cross reference to K&N for it was way to small.
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Ok..thanks. I'll check out the K&N site for the refurbish kit.
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I run the stock S&S filter for the G carb. I have a local S&S dealer and S&S engine builder that swears by the stock cleaner and that they flow better and work better than the S&S.
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I have a local S&S dealer and S&S engine builder that swears by the stock cleaner
Of course they would, considering where their bread is buttered.
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Hi, I just installed a K&N air filter, PN E-3226 on my 06 K9. I am using the stock air cleaner assembly. I ground the tab off of the base plate with no problem. When I installed the cover I noticed that the inside of the cover made direct contact with the base plate mounting studs. This seemed strange because the stock paper element had a slight interference fit when installing the cover. When tightening the cover bolts you where actually compressing the filter element. This made for a good seal.
Regarding the K&N filter, with the cover bolts fully tightened, I had about 1/32” air gap at the bottom of the filter sealing surface. I reached behind the filter and could move it back and forth. The filter was at least the same height as the stock paper element. I also used the grease that was provided by K&N and installed the filter with the “top” marking facing away from the motor. This side of the K&N filter has a tapered sealing surface where the other side was squared off and flat. The stock paper element was squared off and flat at both base plate to filter and cover to filter sealing surfaces. In looking at this you would think that the tapered surface should go up against the cover since the inside cover surface is not flat. In looking at the K&N filter element, it wasn’t crushed. What I ended up doing is flipping the filter element over so that the “top” marking with the tapered sealing service faced the motor and the squared off and flat sealing surface went against the inside of the cover. This seemed to work since the filter was compressed all the way around after tightening the cover bolts. When trying to move the filter from behind with the cover installed there was no play or air gap. Has anyone else that didn’t have a crushed K&N filter have the same issue?
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Rickster, I run the K&N E-3226 on my 06-K9 with the top side facing out and it seals fine. Torque up the screws 8-12 ft/lbs and no gap inside the cover. Seems strange it fits one way and not the other. The cover is rounded & the base plate is flat. Sounds like you put it on back assward to get a seal.
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Old 06-30-2009, 01:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks Bunky for the response. I had already done what you outlined in your message and just did it again. When applying a little in and out pressure with my finger on the bottom back of the filter with the cover installed, I can create about a 1/8" air gap in the filter sealing surfaces. The other areas around the diameter of the filter, you cannot push in and fits tight. I also noticed that the K&N filter has 1/4" smaller outside diameter than the stock paper element. This size difference seems like it could be a contributing factor in the air gap/non sealing issue. I plan on sending the K&N filter back and going back to the BDM paper element.

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