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Old 03-15-2012, 12:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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EFM Autoclutch initial Review

Finished the install tonight. Easy install if you are a bit mechanical and have a service manual, even if you know nothing about clutches (But I do now). Garry answered all questions I had and Carlos a/k/a Little-Boo was also very helpful. Thanks Guys. Worked correctly as soon as I buttoned it up.

It creeps very very slightly in first with no clutch pull. If I put my feet down, it will sit still. You can adjust this by the pushrod. Its interesting because the clutch handle has no back pressure at idle. When you rev it, its has some back pressure, but is a very easy pull clutch. Reminds me of my first bike (Kawasaki KV75) that had a 3 speed autoclutch. I took it for a test run and its a blast. I can see the real benefit of launching with no clutch and how light the pull is when shifting through the gears. It is a bit weird when you instinctively pull the clutch and there is no clutch pressure at low rpms. Anyways, so far, I think its money and time well spent. Plus I know my bike a bit better now.

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Old 03-15-2012, 01:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds great! Glad that you like it and keep us posted as time goes by. Did you by chance take any pics of it?...
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I took some pictures of the open primary with an intent to do a how to, but forget to take pictures on install. if you can remove your clutch basket and adjust your chain, there is nothing more to it than possibly adjusting the pushrod. it just happens that my prior pushrod adjustment works fine with this. another thing i liked is that when coasting through tight intersection turns, you can downshift without pulling the clutch lever. i will update after 3 months.
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You need to swap steels to a thinner one to get rid of the creep.

If you don't it will get worse.

You can also lower the idle a tad if it does not make it run to slow.

Using the clutch adjuster to keep it from creeping is a bad idea. You are going to burn the grease up and weld stuff together.
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You need to swap steels to a thinner one to get rid of the creep.

If you don't it will get worse.

You can also lower the idle a tad if it does not make it run to slow.

Using the clutch adjuster to keep it from creeping is a bad idea. You are going to burn the grease up and weld stuff together.
Brian,

Garry should have sent you some extra pressure washers (four of them), I have not used mine, but Garry told me that using those washer or adding those to what is on there now would take care of the creeping while in 1st gear. Mine feels like it want to creep, but it doesn't it just feels good for now.

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I can see this being really handy at rallies.
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Thanks Guys. Carlos, wherer are the washers to be installed? Never got any from Garry.

It really only creeps if I pick my feet up. I like it the way it is now as long as I am harming anything.
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You need to swap steels to a thinner one to get rid of the creep.

If you don't it will get worse.

You can also lower the idle a tad if it does not make it run to slow.

Using the clutch adjuster to keep it from creeping is a bad idea. You are going to burn the grease up and weld stuff together.
Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-15-2012, 12:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Just talked to Garry and he said as long as its not moving forward with my feet down, its set up right.
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Thanks Guys. Carlos, wherer are the washers to be installed? Never got any from Garry.

It really only creeps if I pick my feet up. I like it the way it is now as long as I am harming anything.
You have four bolts on the center of the pressure plate. Each has one pressure washer on it (it is black thin and bent ), Garry told me to add the extra ones to those already installed and it would help with the creep. But if you talked to him and he says you are set up right than that should be where you want to be with the adjustments. I like mine and like the way is turned out. Hopefully this will last me a long long time.

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What was the final price. As far as performance mods go this will be my last.
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Old 03-16-2012, 03:20 AM   #12 (permalink)
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i think he added those before he sent it to me, maybe based on your experience. wasn't sure what you meant. i am also very happy the way it is.

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For what its worth, I have had a Rekluse auto clutch in my Yamaha 4 stroke dirt bike for several years. The type of oil that I use in it makes a big difference in how much the clutch grabs at idle. My Yamaha is different though as it uses the same oil for the engine as it does for the clutch. I use Chevron Delo400 as recommended by ReKluse. Admittedly there are probably better synthetic oils out there, but the synthetic is a little to slippery for the clutch. Since the Chevron is cheap, as recommended, I change it more frequently since it goes through the engine also. I'm not recommending what oils to use, just saying that they make a big difference on how the auto clutch work.
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First time i have any kind of clutch problem, i will look into one of these critters, they sound pretty darn sweet.
Please keep forum updated on your ride, inquireing minds wish to know.
I did a web search and found this guy who seems have rode the hell out of an auto clutch....

http://biketrashholiday.com/2011/07/...-final-review/

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1 month update - love the auto clutch so far. Once I got the hang of shifting without using the clutch at all (just slightly backing off the throttle or blipping it as Garry says), it has worked flawlessly. Much quicker to run through the gears and its nice never having to pull the clutch. I know my other bike is more powerful and lighter, but I am not sure it would be faster to 80mph since shifting on the Dog is much quicker. For you perfromance junkies, this is the ticket for faster acceleration without adding HP. No complaints so far.
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