n.o.s on a dog

Eric · 01-22-2009, 07:40 PM

all you hp buffs anyone run nitrous on your dog? I've seen it on just about everthing @ the track, will the s&s take it? no i'm not gona put on mine, but would it handle if someone did, normally you retard timing if much nos is added just wondering

BorgerBigDog · 02-24-2009, 04:45 AM

I thought about it for looks and to show lot of money for something i probably wouldnt use. Well maybe one or two times

scott70d · 02-24-2009, 11:49 AM

Sounds like fun would look good too.

What are you gona do to upgrade the timeing that funny gass burnes way more fuel ?

Eric · 02-24-2009, 12:12 PM

no I'm not just wanted to know if someone here had done it

2005PITBULL · 02-24-2009, 01:49 PM

actually in the shop doing it now...
the guy told me Eldebrock kit is the ONLY way to do it...
can buy a plate to match your carb.
He also said he would not do it to a stock motor, needs to have a cam and springs

stlmikie · 02-24-2009, 04:57 PM

Let us know how it goes 05.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2005PITBULL

actually in the shop doing it now...
the guy told me Eldebrock kit is the ONLY way to do it...
can buy a plate to match your carb.
He also said he would not do it to a stock motor, needs to have a cam and springs

chaingunner · 02-24-2009, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2005PITBULL

actually in the shop doing it now...
the guy told me Eldebrock kit is the ONLY way to do it...
can buy a plate to match your carb.
He also said he would not do it to a stock motor, needs to have a cam and springs

pix!!!!!!

gearsmithy · 02-24-2009, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric

all you hp buffs anyone run nitrous on your dog? I've seen it on just about everthing @ the track, will the s&s take it? no i'm not gona put on mine, but would it handle if someone did, normally you retard timing if much nos is added just wondering

HELL NO, I wouldn't use NOS for anything outside of drag racing applications (and I can't afford to build a motor that can handle nitrous without causing damage every time I use it)

Bocephus05 · 02-25-2009, 03:25 AM

There are alot of misconceptions about nitrous.

On the timing, you want to retard it a little if anything..

As far as it " burning way more fuel ", if you go with a wet kit that has a fuel jet and N2o jet in the fogger, it adds the required amount of fuel along with the nitrous to keep the mixture from leaning out when its applied.A "dry" kit as alot of folks call them will be only an N2o manifold that sprays nitrous into your intake manifold.Alot of those kits will run a line from the nitrous manifold to the carb's vent to atmosphere.Since the carb no longer has that vent, you have to move way up on your main jet to acheive a proper a/f mixture.When you apply the nitrous the manifold sends pressure created by the pressure from the bottle to pressurize the float bowl forcing extra fuel into the engine to provide the mixture from leaning out.Make any sense

.

With the fairly low compression on these motors (stock), thats another +..

If you do decide on using nitrous once you get a kit installed before you spray it I'd suggest using an LM1 wideband, or dyno time to get the mixture perfect.Once you have it properly tuned its not really "bad" for anything if used wisely.Common failures are usually headgaskets, holes burnt in pistons,ect..But that is from improper or no tuning usually.Never know till you try it

Sorry for the long post and also I've never run nitrous on an S&S and have no idea what it will tolerate, but have run it on alot of kawasaki v-twin atv's.

117bigdog · 02-26-2009, 09:01 PM

I was thinking about getting a nos kit. I saw that NOS has a nice dual chrome bottle kit part number 0312-oz-pnos. Edelbrocks kit isn't that nice looking of what I seen, and i heard that how they want you took hook it up and use it you have to hold down your horn button to have it armed. Seemed wierd to me. If thats true there are always ways around that.

john sachs · 02-27-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 117bigdog

I was thinking about getting a nos kit. I saw that NOS has a nice dual chrome bottle kit part number 0312-oz-pnos. Edelbrocks kit isn't that nice looking of what I seen, and i heard that how they want you took hook it up and use it you have to hold down your horn button to have it armed. Seemed wierd to me. If thats true there are always ways around that.

Now,now,don't jump the gun.
3 Pro Mod #1 plates,current SEMDRA # 1

stlmikie · 02-27-2009, 01:31 AM

Is that you or your son?

Quote:

Originally Posted by john sachs

Now,now,don't jump the gun.
3 Pro Mod #1 plates,current SEMDRA # 1

BorgerBigDog · 02-27-2009, 02:30 AM

John i bet its hard to describe the feeling you get when you crank that wrist

john sachs · 02-27-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stlmikie

Is that you or your son?

My oldest son.

Borger,
A little too hard for me to handle at my age.
Runs 6.70s @ 200,when run out the back door.
Valdosta 1/8 mi. record holder @ 4.27
John

Chopper Dave · 02-27-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by john sachs

My oldest son.

Borger,
A little too hard for me to handle at my age.
Runs 6.70s @ 200,when run out the back door.
Valdosta 1/8 mi. record holder @ 4.27
John

cool pics John!

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Eric Banned Name: Eric Member #: 1358 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: griffin ga Posts: 5,803 My Gallery Rep Power: 0	n.o.s on a dog all you hp buffs anyone run nitrous on your dog? I've seen it on just about everthing @ the track, will the s&s take it? no i'm not gona put on mine, but would it handle if someone did, normally you retard timing if much nos is added just wondering

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02-24-2009, 12:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
Eric Banned Name: Eric Member #: 1358 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: griffin ga Posts: 5,803 My Gallery Rep Power: 0	no I'm not just wanted to know if someone here had done it

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2005PITBULL Junior Member Member #: 2118 Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 4 My Bike(s): PITBULL My Gallery Rep Power: 0	actually in the shop doing it now... the guy told me Eldebrock kit is the ONLY way to do it... can buy a plate to match your carb. He also said he would not do it to a stock motor, needs to have a cam and springs

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Bocephus05 Member Member #: 924 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Deep East Texas Posts: 134 My Bike(s): 2005 Big Dog Ridgeback My Gallery Rep Power: 6	There are alot of misconceptions about nitrous. On the timing, you want to retard it a little if anything.. As far as it " burning way more fuel ", if you go with a wet kit that has a fuel jet and N2o jet in the fogger, it adds the required amount of fuel along with the nitrous to keep the mixture from leaning out when its applied.A "dry" kit as alot of folks call them will be only an N2o manifold that sprays nitrous into your intake manifold.Alot of those kits will run a line from the nitrous manifold to the carb's vent to atmosphere.Since the carb no longer has that vent, you have to move way up on your main jet to acheive a proper a/f mixture.When you apply the nitrous the manifold sends pressure created by the pressure from the bottle to pressurize the float bowl forcing extra fuel into the engine to provide the mixture from leaning out.Make any sense . With the fairly low compression on these motors (stock), thats another +.. If you do decide on using nitrous once you get a kit installed before you spray it I'd suggest using an LM1 wideband, or dyno time to get the mixture perfect.Once you have it properly tuned its not really "bad" for anything if used wisely.Common failures are usually headgaskets, holes burnt in pistons,ect..But that is from improper or no tuning usually.Never know till you try it Sorry for the long post and also I've never run nitrous on an S&S and have no idea what it will tolerate, but have run it on alot of kawasaki v-twin atv's.

02-26-2009, 09:01 PM	#10 (permalink)
117bigdog Bring It! Member #: 290 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: ft. lauderdale florida Posts: 353 My Bike(s): 2005 bigdog chopper My Gallery Rep Power: 6	I was thinking about getting a nos kit. I saw that NOS has a nice dual chrome bottle kit part number 0312-oz-pnos. Edelbrocks kit isn't that nice looking of what I seen, and i heard that how they want you took hook it up and use it you have to hold down your horn button to have it armed. Seemed wierd to me. If thats true there are always ways around that.